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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.mobile.android |
| Subject | Re: Anti-virus? |
| Date | 2018-10-07 20:48 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <411q8f-b9s.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink) |
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On 03/10/2018 15.28, Hergen Lehmann wrote: > Am 03.10.2018 um 13:44 schrieb Carlos E. R.: > >> Of course they can. You simply have to trust the Android system not to >> pass this information to apps. > > Even if the system doesn't pass the information to apps, the info will > be passed to google. The google services play an integral and important > role in the location services of the Android system. > >> In this situation the most a web page or >> app can do is gleaning the position from the current IP address. > > The operator can also ask google. Location-aware "real time bidding" is > *THE* big thing in online marketing these days... By operator you mean the phone service operator or company? Because it is the other way round, they ask the operator to return the location of the phone via triangulation of the tower signals. > >> However, authorities still can track the phones, even dumb phones. Not >> by doing anything on the phones, but by correlating tower logs, ie, by >> asking the ISP to find the location of any phone in the past. Hopefully >> with a search warrant. > > The use of IMSI catchers is also widespread in many countries. And they > certainly do *NOT* have a search warrant for all the innocent people > "accidentally" captured and logged by these things. Mmm. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMSI-catcher From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia An international mobile subscriber identity-catcher, or IMSI-catcher, is a telephone eavesdropping device used for intercepting mobile phone traffic and tracking location data of mobile phone users.[1] Essentially a "fake" mobile tower acting between the target mobile phone and the service provider's real towers, it is considered a man-in-the-middle (MITM) attack. The 3G wireless standard offers some risk mitigation due to mutual authentication required from both the handset and the network.[2] However, sophisticated attacks may be able to downgrade 3G and LTE to non-LTE network services which do not require mutual authentication.[3] IMSI-catchers are used in the United States and other countries by law enforcement and intelligence agencies, but their use has raised significant civil liberty and privacy concerns and is strictly regulated in some countries such as under the German Strafprozessordnung (StPO / Code of Criminal Procedure).[1][4] Some countries do not have encrypted phone data traffic (or very weak encryption), thus rendering an IMSI-catcher unnecessary. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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