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Re: Are there electrons that are different?

From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Are there electrons that are different?
Date 2015-08-24 17:55 +0200
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Odd Bodkin wrote:

> On 8/24/2015 10:24 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>> Third, electrons only travel if there is a voltage difference between
>>>> the earth and the body,
>> This sentence becomes true if one replaces “voltage” with “charge” or
>> “electric potential”.
> 
> Let's try the first. "Third, electrons only travel if there is a charge
> difference between the earth and the body." Nope, doesn't work for me.

That does not matter.  It works in nature, and in physics.  With regard to 
static electricity, when you get “zapped” (as Tom put it), there is an 
electric *discharge*.  There is only a electric discharge between two points 
if their electric charge is different, i.e. the (electric) _charge_ 
difference is not zero (cf. lightning).
 
> As for the second, voltage IS synonymous with difference in electrical
> potential.

AISB.  But you were talking about a *voltage* difference instead.


PointedEars
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“Science is empirical: knowing the answer means nothing;
 testing your knowledge means everything.”
   —Dr. Lawrence M. Krauss, theoretical physicist,
    in “A Universe from Nothing” (2009)

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