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Re: Does General Relativity Predict Gravitational Waves?

From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Does General Relativity Predict Gravitational Waves?
Date 2016-03-05 22:01 +0100
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jay moseley wrote:

[Repaired quotation; please do not remove attribution lines, but trim them 
if necessary.]

> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> […] The observed kind of strain is precisely what was predicted by
>> Einstein 100 years before. Non-relativistic strain can been excluded
>> because of the precautions taken in the experiment.
> 
> When is strain not strain?

Your fallacy here is: Straw man.  Nobody has claimed that ”strain [would not 
be] strain”. 

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies#Red_herring_fallacies>

I have said that there are different kinds of strain.  The one that you are 
referring to (classical, non-relativistic) was _not_ observed at the LIGO 
detectors; the one I referred to (relativistic) was.

>> Not in the observed way, and not under these conditions.
> 
> As usual there is no evidence to back up this spurious claim.

Yes, there is.  Go to the LIGO website [1] and watch the videos explaining 
the method of detection of GW150914 (e.g., [2]), their article on it, and/or 
their paper referred there [3], and do not post about this again until you 
did your homework.

[1] <http://www.ligo.org/>
[2] <https://www.ligo.caltech.edu/detection>
[3] <https://www.ligo.caltech.edu/news/ligo20160211>

> Which is why you nor Sam nor the hacks at LIGO have offered any.

Your fallacies here are:

  · /Argumentum ex silentio/
  · Shifting the burden of proof.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies#Informal_fallacies>


PointedEars
-- 
Q: What did the nuclear physicist order for lunch?  
A: Fission chips.

(from: WolframAlpha)

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Re: Does General Relativity Predict Gravitational Waves? Helénē Swanhild <helenes@gardenclosure.org> - 2016-03-03 19:29 +0000
  Re: Does General Relativity Predict Gravitational Waves? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-05 12:35 +0100
    Re: Does General Relativity Predict Gravitational Waves? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-03-05 05:25 -0800
      Re: Does General Relativity Predict Gravitational Waves? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 08:08 -0600
      Re: Does General Relativity Predict Gravitational Waves? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-05 17:42 +0100
        Re: Does General Relativity Predict Gravitational Waves? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-03-05 12:19 -0800
          Re: Does General Relativity Predict Gravitational Waves? Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 14:21 -0600
          Re: Does General Relativity Predict Gravitational Waves? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-05 22:01 +0100
            Re: Does General Relativity Predict Gravitational Waves? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-03-05 14:14 -0800
              Re: Does General Relativity Predict Gravitational Waves? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-06 16:24 +0100
                Re: Does General Relativity Predict Gravitational Waves? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-03-06 08:22 -0800
                Re: Does General Relativity Predict Gravitational Waves? jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-03-07 00:44 -0800
                Re: Does General Relativity Predict Gravitational Waves? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-07 20:52 +0100
                Re: Does General Relativity Predict Gravitational Waves? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-03-07 12:54 -0800
      Re: Does General Relativity Predict Gravitational Waves? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 09:09 -0600

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