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Re: Any Rosetta rumors?

From Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Any Rosetta rumors?
Date 2013-10-29 22:29 +0000
Message-ID <291020132229265409%timstreater@greenbee.net> (permalink)
References <l4p122$o6d$1@dont-email.me> <291020131513157934%nospam@nospam.invalid> <l4p4g1$l4m$1@dont-email.me>

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In article <l4p4g1$l4m$1@dont-email.me>, Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> wrote:

> On 10/29/13, 2:13 PM, nospam wrote:
> > In article <l4p122$o6d$1@dont-email.me>, Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> wrote:
> >
> >> As I mentioned a few days ago, it's been awhile since I've been on this
> >> newsgroup.  The chatter about Mavericks prompts me to ask a question
> >> that I imagine has come up now and again -- has there been any serious
> >> discussion of someone coming up with a 3rd-party equivalent of Rosetta
> >> so irreplaceable OS X PPC apps can still be run?  SheepShaver works
> >> great for PPC stuff that will run on OS 9.0.4., but that's it.
> >
> > not likely to happen. not enough potential customers to bother (and
> > shrinking), even if it was technically realistic.
> >
> 
> You'd think the customer base for that would be much, much larger than 
> the base for SheepShaver, and yet the latter continues to be 
> well-maintained by volunteers.

All this is interesting but not relevant. When Rosetta first
disappeared, there were rumours that people had made it work under Lion
by installing the Rosetta module. Unfortunately while this is necessary
it's not sufficient. There are all the libraries and frameworks that
Apple maintained two versions of, one set for Intel, and one set for
PPC written in PPC code. It is this latter set which is no longer
supplied by Apple, and no third party is going to be able to provide
it.

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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Any Rosetta rumors? Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> - 2013-10-29 14:07 -0500
  Re: Any Rosetta rumors? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-29 15:13 -0400
    Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> - 2013-10-29 15:06 -0500
      Re: Any Rosetta rumors? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-29 16:22 -0400
        Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> - 2013-10-29 16:35 -0500
          Re: Any Rosetta rumors? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-29 18:11 -0400
            Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> - 2013-10-29 17:35 -0500
            Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-10-30 17:00 -0400
              Re: Any Rosetta rumors? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-30 17:09 -0400
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-10-30 17:29 -0400
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-30 17:36 -0400
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-10-30 19:54 -0400
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-30 20:04 -0400
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-10-30 20:10 -0400
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> - 2013-10-30 19:05 -0500
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-10-30 20:12 -0400
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> - 2013-10-30 22:05 -0500
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-10-30 19:58 -0700
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> - 2013-10-30 22:18 -0500
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-10-30 19:56 -0700
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-31 13:11 +1300
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-31 00:02 -0400
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-31 18:26 +1300
          Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-29 19:10 -0400
            Re: Any Rosetta rumors? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-29 19:27 -0400
              Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-10-29 17:48 -0700
            Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-29 19:32 -0400
              Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> - 2013-10-29 18:59 -0500
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-29 20:23 -0400
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-29 20:30 -0400
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> - 2013-10-29 19:38 -0500
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-29 21:03 -0400
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-30 19:31 +1300
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-30 09:09 -0400
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-31 09:21 +1300
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-30 17:12 -0400
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-31 13:03 +1300
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-31 00:05 -0400
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-30 14:32 -0400
          Re: Any Rosetta rumors? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-10-30 12:11 +1300
            Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> - 2013-10-29 18:57 -0500
              Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-30 19:11 +1300
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? "Ted L." <tedl719@yahoo.com> - 2013-10-30 07:54 -0500
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-31 09:15 +1300
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-10-31 00:31 +0000
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-31 15:19 +1300
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-10-30 19:50 -0700
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> - 2013-10-30 22:14 -0500
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-10-31 01:04 -0700
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-10-31 21:54 +1300
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-31 05:23 -0400
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-11-01 00:30 -0700
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-01 07:03 -0400
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-11-02 10:29 +1300
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-01 23:33 -0400
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-31 05:24 -0400
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-31 09:25 -0400
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-31 12:29 +0000
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2013-10-31 09:14 -0400
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-31 09:26 -0400
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-31 14:23 +0000
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2013-10-31 09:11 -0400
              Re: Any Rosetta rumors? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-10-30 22:21 +1300
            Re: Any Rosetta rumors? RRansil <ransil@invalid.invalid> - 2013-10-29 19:40 -0700
              Re: Any Rosetta rumors? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-29 22:45 -0400
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-10-30 04:25 +0000
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-30 00:48 -0400
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-10-30 12:54 +0000
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-30 13:33 -0400
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? ggrandish@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 10:49 -0700
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-30 14:57 -0400
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-10-31 00:23 +0000
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-31 02:57 -0400
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-10-31 14:31 +0000
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-31 13:43 -0400
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? ggrandish@gmail.com - 2013-10-31 12:57 -0700
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-31 18:20 -0400
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-31 21:08 -0400
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-31 18:20 -0400
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-11-01 13:47 +0000
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-30 09:16 -0400
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-30 10:21 -0700
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2013-10-30 15:54 -0400
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-30 13:02 -0700
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-10-31 09:58 +1300
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-30 17:33 -0400
              Re: Any Rosetta rumors? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-10-30 04:27 +0000
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-30 09:15 -0400
                Re: Any Rosetta rumors? isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2013-10-30 09:52 -0700
        Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2013-10-31 08:16 +0000
          Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-01 09:30 +1300
      Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-29 22:29 +0000
  Re: Any Rosetta rumors? ggrandish@gmail.com - 2013-10-29 15:19 -0700
    Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-31 18:46 -0400
      Re: Any Rosetta rumors? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-11-01 12:55 +0000
    Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-31 21:11 -0400
      Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-01 14:30 -0400
        Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-11-01 17:05 -0400
          Re: Any Rosetta rumors? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-01 23:34 -0400
  Re: Any Rosetta rumors? "Mr. Strat" <mrstrat@nospam.gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 05:45 -0700

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