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Re: Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature

From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature
Date 2015-10-16 20:24 +0200
Organization PointedEars Software (PES)
Message-ID <2221093.Xhf1MPDpjQ@PointedEars.de> (permalink)
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Mahipal wrote:

> […] Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Mahipal wrote:
>> > On Thursday, October 15, 2015 at 6:15:39 PM UTC-4, Euclid Baumann
>> > wrote:
>> >> Mahipal wrote:
>> >> > Most of all, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn is clear and cogent in all
>> >> > his writings. Deal with it.
>> >> > [...]
>> >> PointedEars is the stupid troll, you fool. You know them by their
>> >> stupid names. No wonder he is a friend of yours. Are you two trolls
>> >> living together?
>> > Yes, Thomas is my friend,
>> I would not go that far (AFAIR, we have never had any private
>> communication to begin with), but thank you for the vote of confidence. 
>> I am certainly not always correct; but I am trying to do my homework
>> before I post, which cannot be said of certain other people here.
> 
> I've been on Usenet since the 1990s. I have made many friends here
> over the years. Sadly, for good or bad, I have never met any of them
> face-to-face. All communications were through this device/medium
> called writing. Word after word after WORD after ...youKnow.

I think that you are using the word “friend” too inflationatory.  This 
appears to be a common misconception nowadays (consider, for example, 
Facebook, where you can be friends with many of people you have never met).  
I have made many acquaintances online and offline, farther and closer ones; 
but my friends are only a selected few people whom I can count on when I am 
in distress, and who can count on me when they are.

> Nowadays, Usenet posters/authors can also provide detailed web sites.

ACK.

>> ISTM that you are among the few people here, including me, who actually
>> want to learn about physics and who can be reasoned with.  It is
>> therefore unfortunate that you have chosen to post using a pseudonym and
>> via Google Groups, both of which are usually filtered out here in order
>> to reduce the noise I am getting.
> 
> On a ship of fools, we ourselves also must be one ... S(y)ndrome.

Neither do I subscribe to that approach, nor do I think that newsgroups can 
be equated to a ship of fools.
 
> Physics is my life, not my livelihood.

Meaning?

> Mahipal is my name, so my parents tell me. […]

A real name consists of first and last name.  Even in India, celebrities 
aside.

> Mahipal is a ancient Sanskrit name/word with a specific meaning.

Interesting.

> It's googleable.

If you did, you would have found out that there is only one person *only* 
called Mahipal: an Indian actor (Mahipal Singh; granted not a unique name in 
India) who died in 2005.  And there are *a lot* of Mahipals in science.

> As a rule, just because others use pseudonyms, does not mean we all
> do.

But surely you can see that a single (first) name is more likely to be a 
pseudonym or nickname.  And filters can recognize that.  Granted, it is not 
a perfect solution (as the ’nym-shifting troll demonstrates every other 
day), but it is better than nothing.

> My past posting digitalID addresses were not limited to Google.
> Will this GoogleBashing ever end?! The medium is not the message.

You have a poor choice of "medium" (rather: interface; the medium always is 
Usenet).  Not only is Google Groups on the Web, which requires a Web-to-
NetNews interface (not bad in itself, but in the way Google did it), and a 
source of spam, trolls and other idiots thanks to the negligence or support 
of Google (they do not seem to care about distributed Usenet anymore, 
instead they seem to want to push only their proprietary Google Groups 
groups – nothing more than Web forums under Google’s control); it also 
produces messages that are seriously technically flawed (to the point of 
breaking threads by not using proper References header fields).

See also: <http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/>
 
> Speaking of physics and my name Mahipal, here's a link to JAW dropping
> John A. Wheeler communicating with me via his handwriting. Images
> mandatory. Btw, JAW I actually met face-to-face. Good times then,
> future held hope. Hope now is POTUS Obomba's prisoner begging for change.
> 
> https://mahipal7638.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/jaw_scan0011.jpg
>
> As hanson once wrote: ...the wisdom of Prof. Archibald Wheeler's comments
> in your ME force essay in http://mahipal7638.wordpress.com/meforce/ ...

Fascinating *philosophy* and story indeed, but not evidence of any *serious* 
work in *physics*.  (Not that this would be required here, but you claimed 
that “[your] life [would be] physics”.  ISTM that you are confusing physics 
with philosophy.)
 
BTW, Einstein first used “L”, then “E”, for energy; never “e” :)  And he did 
_not_ postulate “e = mc²” or “E = mc²” – that is a common misconception; he 
did, in fact, suggest ∆m = ∆L∕c², but in words only.  Only from what was 
later called “special (theory of) relativity” follows E = √((pc)² + (mc²)²) 
from which follows E(p = 0) =: E₀ = mc².  (“e” is reserved for a unit of 
electric charge, and the elementary particle that carries it, the electron.)

See also: 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass%E2%80%93energy_equivalence#Einstein:_mass.E2.80.93energy_equivalence>

>> --
>> Heisenberg is out for a drive when he's stopped by a traffic cop.
>> The officer asks him "Do you know how fast you were going?"
>> Heisenberg replies "No, but I know where I am."
>> (from: WolframAlpha)
> 
> Traffic police cops, now there's a rewording job Spoc! Slow down.

I do not follow.
 
> -- Mahipal 'Captain Kirk is my friend, yet he knows not I exist.'

AISB, you have a weird definition of “friend”.  True friendship always is a 
mutual thing.


PointedEars
-- 
Two neutrinos go through a bar ...

(from: WolframAlpha)

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Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature Euclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> - 2015-10-15 18:43 +0000
  Re: Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature Euclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> - 2015-10-15 18:47 +0000
    Re: Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-10-15 22:20 +0200
      Re: Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature Euclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> - 2015-10-15 20:29 +0000
      sclar noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 13:55 -0700
  Re: Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-10-15 22:09 +0200
    Re: Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature Euclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> - 2015-10-15 20:25 +0000
      Re: Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-10-15 23:36 +0200
        Re: Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature Euclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> - 2015-10-15 21:46 +0000
          Re: Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 15:11 -0700
            Re: Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature Euclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> - 2015-10-15 22:15 +0000
              Re: Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 15:22 -0700
              Re: Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 15:23 -0700
                Re: Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-10-16 09:18 +0200
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                Re: Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 10:09 -0700
                Re: Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-10-16 20:24 +0200
                Re: Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 07:17 -0700
                Re: Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature "Efftard K. Donglemeier" <invalid@example.com> - 2015-10-17 09:10 -0700
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                Re: Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 17:11 -0700
                Re: Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-10-18 03:06 -0400
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      Re: Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-10-16 14:37 +0200
        Re: Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 06:18 -0700
          Re: Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-10-16 16:54 +0200
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    Re: Giant alien 'megastructures' against Spacetime Curvature Euclid Baumann <eubaum@parallelnetwork.org> - 2015-10-16 13:37 +0000
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