Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things --- "reckless disregard for the truth"

From	Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com>
Newsgroups	comp.theory, sci.logic, comp.ai.philosophy, sci.math
Subject	Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things --- "reckless disregard for the truth"
Date	2025-11-17 22:58 +0000
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On 2025-11-17, olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/15/2025 8:48 PM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
>> On 2025-11-16, olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> HHH cannot possibly report on the behavior
>>> of its caller because HHH has no way of
>>> knowing what function is calling it.
>>>
>>> This means that when the halting problem
>>> requires HHH to report on the behavior of
>>> its caller: DD() that its is requiring
>>> something outside the scope of computation.
>> 
>> That's dumber than the Witch scene in Monty Python and The Holy Grail.
>> 
>
> *I will be utterly relentless about this*
> *I will be utterly relentless about this*
> *I will be utterly relentless about this*
> *I will be utterly relentless about this*
>
> Yes and now if you could just translate that
> mere baseless rhetoric into actual reasoning
> with a sound basis.
>
> Not to denigrate you but I think that this
> would be totally out of your depth as it
> would be for most everyone.

I am certainly not smarter than Turing, but you think you are.

I do not believe that HHH is required to report on the behavior
of its caller. There is no such thing.

In the computing environment you have devised, the top activation of HHH
has a caller, which is the (one and only) activation of main. That
observation is not interesting or relevant, and, more importantly,
/must/ not be relevant.

Pure functions do not have a context. Given an expression f(x, y),
it denotes eactly the same calculation no matter where it is placed,
provided that the placement does not override the meaning of the
symbol f (that is to say, there isn't a lexically enclosing
shadowing redefinition of f).

This property is called "referential transparency" in CS.

The test case D can incorporate any one of an infinite number
of possible representations of the /algorithm/ on which H is based.

It uses that algorithm, but does not call H.

The circumstances of the halting problem are not limited to the narrow
conception that is embodied in just your C programming experiment.

It is about algorithms, not specific functions in a programming
language, which are all in the same image, such that D
calls the same address H that is the procedure deciding it.

You've not acknowledged your mistakes, such as:

- continuing to use impure functions (e.g. mutating global
  execution trace buffer; distinguishing "Root == 1" H
  functions from "Root == 0").

- treating unequal addresses as necessarily unequal functions.

- conflating the instruction events from multiple simulations
  into a single execution trace buffer.

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          People that have a very shallow understanding of these things olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-15 21:01 -0600
            Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2025-11-16 12:10 +0800
              Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-15 22:41 -0600
            Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-15 23:13 -0600
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                Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-16 19:02 -0600
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                Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-16 21:47 -0600
                Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-16 21:49 -0600
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                Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-11-16 18:35 -0800
            Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-11-17 04:29 +0000
              Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-16 22:40 -0600
                Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-11-17 05:03 +0000
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            Halt Deciders cannot report on the behavior of their caller olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-16 10:12 -0600
        Kaz say that he is dumber than the Witch scene in Monty Python olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-16 22:19 -0600
        Kaz PROVES that he is dumber than the Witch scene in Monty Python olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-16 22:25 -0600
        Who agrees that Kaz is dumber than the Witch scene in Monty Python ? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-16 22:26 -0600
        People that have a very shallow understanding of these things olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-17 07:12 -0600
          Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-11-17 18:06 +0000
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              Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-11-17 22:47 +0000
            Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-11-17 18:16 +0000
              Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-17 12:22 -0600
                Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-11-17 22:49 +0000
              Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2025-11-17 19:02 +0000
                Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-17 13:05 -0600
                Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-17 13:11 -0600
                Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-17 13:42 -0600
                Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-11-17 21:28 +0000
                Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2025-11-17 22:24 +0000
                Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-17 17:02 -0600
                Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-11-17 23:49 +0000
                Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-17 19:52 -0600
                Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2025-11-19 16:28 +0000
                Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-19 11:10 -0600
                Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-11-19 17:40 +0000
                Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2025-11-19 15:51 +0000
                Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-19 11:04 -0600
                Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-11-19 18:23 +0000
        People that have a very shallow understanding of these things --- AKA Kaz olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-17 09:47 -0600
          Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things --- AKA Kaz Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2025-11-17 16:32 +0000
            People that have a very shallow understanding of these things --- "reckless disregard for the truth" olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-17 10:48 -0600
              Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things --- "reckless disregard for the truth" Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2025-11-17 17:42 +0000
                Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things --- "reckless disregard for the truth" olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-17 11:48 -0600
          How teach logic? [The Jokes] (Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-18 22:46 +0100
            Re: How teach logic? [The Jokes] (Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-18 16:02 -0600
              Enjoying some logic under a shadowy tree? (Was: How teach logic? [The Jokes]) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-18 23:15 +0100
                Re: Enjoying some logic under a shadowy tree? (Was: How teach logic? [The Jokes]) olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-18 16:54 -0600
                What did you do before 2001 ? (Was: Enjoying some logic under a shadowy tree?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-19 09:50 +0100
                What are top ten books in set theory? (Re: What did you do before 2001 ?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-19 10:16 +0100
                Slim Fermats Last Theorem (FLT) only for Lean4? (Was: What are top ten books in set theory?) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-19 11:14 +0100
              Re: How teach logic? [The Jokes] (Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-11-18 15:15 -0800
        People that have a very shallow understanding of these things --- "reckless disregard for the truth" olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-17 11:41 -0600
          Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things --- "reckless disregard for the truth" Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-11-17 22:58 +0000
            Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things --- "reckless disregard for the truth" Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2025-11-19 16:35 +0000
              Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things --- "reckless disregard for the truth" Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-11-19 17:48 +0000
                Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things --- "reckless disregard for the truth" Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2025-11-19 17:57 +0000
                Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things --- "reckless disregard for the truth" Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-11-19 18:31 +0000
                Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things --- "reckless disregard for the truth" olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-11-19 12:39 -0600
                Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things --- "reckless disregard for the truth" Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-11-19 18:54 +0000
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                human understanding of true and proof are both flawed olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-12-02 15:23 -0600
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            Re: Stop responding to Olcott by December 2025: who is in? [t - 0] Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-12-02 16:04 +0000
              Olcott is provably correct --- no one can correctly refute this olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-12-03 19:47 -0600
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            Olcott is provably correct --- no one can correctly refute this olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-12-03 19:50 -0600
        Olcott is provably correct --- no one can correct refute this olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-12-03 19:44 -0600
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