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Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ](V2)

From Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc>
Newsgroups comp.theory
Subject Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ](V2)
Message-ID <20220512191355.000050d4@reddwarf.jmc> (permalink)
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Organization Jupiter Mining Corp
Date 2022-05-12 19:13 +0100

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On Thu, 12 May 2022 13:06:48 -0500
olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:

> On 5/12/2022 1:00 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
> > On Thu, 12 May 2022 12:51:27 -0500
> > olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
> >   
> >> On 5/12/2022 12:47 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:  
> >>> On Thu, 12 May 2022 12:45:15 -0500
> >>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
> >>>      
> >>>> On 5/12/2022 12:43 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:  
> >>>>> On Wed, 11 May 2022 19:23:45 -0500
> >>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
> >>>>>         
> >>>>>> On 5/11/2022 2:11 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:  
> >>>>>>> On Wed, 11 May 2022 13:07:16 -0500
> >>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>            
> >>>>>>>> Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting
> >>>>>>>> problem proofs ]
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The x86utm operating system was created so that every detail
> >>>>>>>> of the conventional halting problem counter example could be
> >>>>>>>> fully specified in C/x86.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>         In computability theory, the halting problem is the
> >>>>>>>>         problem of determining, from a description of an
> >>>>>>>>         arbitrary computer program and an input, whether the
> >>>>>>>>         program will finish running, or continue to run
> >>>>>>>> forever...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>         For any program f that might determine if programs
> >>>>>>>> halt, a "pathological" program g, called with some input, can
> >>>>>>>>         pass its own source and its input to f and then
> >>>>>>>> specifically do the opposite of what f predicts g will do.
> >>>>>>>> No f can exist that handles this case.
> >>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> This exact same relationship of f(g,g) was created as H(P,P),
> >>>>>>>> shown below.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> This is the overview of the method for proving that this
> >>>>>>>> analysis is correct:
> >>>>>>>> (a) Verify that the execution trace of P by H is correct by
> >>>>>>>> comparing this execution trace to the ax86 source-code of P.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> (b) Verify that this execution trace shows that P is stuck in
> >>>>>>>> infinitely nested simulation (a non-halting behavior).
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> This proof can only be understood only by those having
> >>>>>>>> sufficient technical competence in:
> >>>>>>>> (a) software engineering (recognizing infinite recursion in C
> >>>>>>>> and x86 code) (b) the x86 programming language
> >>>>>>>> (c) the C programming language and
> >>>>>>>> (d) the details of how C is translated into x86 by the
> >>>>>>>> Microsoft C compilers.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> #include <stdint.h>
> >>>>>>>> #define u32 uint32_t
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> void P(u32 x)
> >>>>>>>> {
> >>>>>>>>        if (H(x, x))
> >>>>>>>>          HERE: goto HERE;
> >>>>>>>>        return;
> >>>>>>>> }
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> int main()
> >>>>>>>> {
> >>>>>>>>        Output("Input_Halts = ", H((u32)P, (u32)P));
> >>>>>>>> }
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> _P()
> >>>>>>>> [00001352](01)  55              push ebp
> >>>>>>>> [00001353](02)  8bec            mov ebp,esp
> >>>>>>>> [00001355](03)  8b4508          mov eax,[ebp+08]
> >>>>>>>> [00001358](01)  50              push eax
> >>>>>>>> [00001359](03)  8b4d08          mov ecx,[ebp+08]
> >>>>>>>> [0000135c](01)  51              push ecx
> >>>>>>>> [0000135d](05)  e840feffff      call 000011a2 // call H
> >>>>>>>> [00001362](03)  83c408          add esp,+08
> >>>>>>>> [00001365](02)  85c0            test eax,eax
> >>>>>>>> [00001367](02)  7402            jz 0000136b
> >>>>>>>> [00001369](02)  ebfe            jmp 00001369
> >>>>>>>> [0000136b](01)  5d              pop ebp
> >>>>>>>> [0000136c](01)  c3              ret
> >>>>>>>> Size in bytes:(0027) [0000136c]
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> _main()
> >>>>>>>> [00001372](01)  55              push ebp
> >>>>>>>> [00001373](02)  8bec            mov ebp,esp
> >>>>>>>> [00001375](05)  6852130000      push 00001352 // push P
> >>>>>>>> [0000137a](05)  6852130000      push 00001352 // push P
> >>>>>>>> [0000137f](05)  e81efeffff      call 000011a2 // call H
> >>>>>>>> [00001384](03)  83c408          add esp,+08
> >>>>>>>> [00001387](01)  50              push eax
> >>>>>>>> [00001388](05)  6823040000      push 00000423 // "Input_Halts
> >>>>>>>> = " [0000138d](05)  e8e0f0ffff      call 00000472 // call
> >>>>>>>> Output [00001392](03)  83c408          add esp,+08
> >>>>>>>> [00001395](02)  33c0            xor eax,eax
> >>>>>>>> [00001397](01)  5d              pop ebp
> >>>>>>>> [00001398](01)  c3              ret
> >>>>>>>> Size in bytes:(0039) [00001398]
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>          machine   stack     stack     machine    assembly
> >>>>>>>>          address   address   data      code       language
> >>>>>>>>          ========  ========  ========  =========
> >>>>>>>> ============= ...[00001372][0010229e][00000000] 55
> >>>>>>>> push ebp ...[00001373][0010229e][00000000] 8bec       mov
> >>>>>>>> ebp,esp ...[00001375][0010229a][00001352] 6852130000 push
> >>>>>>>> 00001352 // push P ...[0000137a][00102296][00001352]
> >>>>>>>> 6852130000 push 00001352 // push P
> >>>>>>>> ...[0000137f][00102292][00001384] e81efeffff call 000011a2
> >>>>>>>> // call H
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Begin Local Halt Decider Simulation   Execution Trace Stored
> >>>>>>>> at:212352 ...[00001352][0021233e][00212342] 55         push
> >>>>>>>> ebp // enter P ...[00001353][0021233e][00212342] 8bec
> >>>>>>>> mov ebp,esp ...[00001355][0021233e][00212342] 8b4508     mov
> >>>>>>>> eax,[ebp+08] ...[00001358][0021233a][00001352] 50
> >>>>>>>> push eax // push P ...[00001359][0021233a][00001352] 8b4d08
> >>>>>>>>    mov ecx,[ebp+08] ...[0000135c][00212336][00001352] 51
> >>>>>>>>     push ecx // push P ...[0000135d][00212332][00001362]
> >>>>>>>> e840feffff call 000011a2 // call H
> >>>>>>>> ...[00001352][0025cd66][0025cd6a] 55 push ebp      // enter
> >>>>>>>> P ...[00001353][0025cd66][0025cd6a] 8bec mov ebp,esp
> >>>>>>>> ...[00001355][0025cd66][0025cd6a] 8b4508 mov eax,[ebp+08]
> >>>>>>>> ...[00001358][0025cd62][00001352] 50 push eax // push P
> >>>>>>>> ...[00001359][0025cd62][00001352] 8b4d08 mov ecx,[ebp+08]
> >>>>>>>> ...[0000135c][0025cd5e][00001352] 51 push ecx // push P
> >>>>>>>> ...[0000135d][0025cd5a][00001362] e840feffff call 000011a2
> >>>>>>>> // call H Local Halt Decider: Infinite Recursion Detected
> >>>>>>>> Simulation Stopped
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> H sees that P is calling the same function from the same
> >>>>>>>> machine address with identical parameters, twice in sequence.
> >>>>>>>> This is the infinite recursion (infinitely nested simulation)
> >>>>>>>> non-halting behavior pattern.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ...[00001384][0010229e][00000000] 83c408     add esp,+08
> >>>>>>>> ...[00001387][0010229a][00000000] 50         push eax
> >>>>>>>> ...[00001388][00102296][00000423] 6823040000 push 00000423 //
> >>>>>>>> "Input_Halts ="
> >>>>>>>> ---[0000138d][00102296][00000423] e8e0f0ffff call 00000472 //
> >>>>>>>> call Output Input_Halts = 0
> >>>>>>>> ...[00001392][0010229e][00000000] 83c408     add esp,+08
> >>>>>>>> ...[00001395][0010229e][00000000] 33c0       xor eax,eax
> >>>>>>>> ...[00001397][001022a2][00100000] 5d         pop ebp
> >>>>>>>> ...[00001398][001022a6][00000004] c3         ret
> >>>>>>>> Number of Instructions Executed(15892) lines = 237 pages
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Halting problem undecidability and infinitely nested
> >>>>>>>> simulation (V5)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/359984584_Halting_problem_undecidability_and_infinitely_nested_simulation_V5
> >>>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Your simulation approach is erroneous as there is no infinite
> >>>>>>> recursion; the key to understanding this is by realizing the
> >>>>>>> implication of the words "pass its own source" in the
> >>>>>>> following:  
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> YOU IGNORED THIS PART
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This proof can only be understood only by those having
> >>>>>> sufficient technical competence in:
> >>>>>> (a) software engineering - recognizing infinite recursion in
> >>>>>> C/x86 (b) the x86 programming language
> >>>>>> (c) the C programming language and
> >>>>>> (d) the details of how C is translated into x86 by the
> >>>>>> Microsoft C compilers.  
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (a) I have been a software developer/engineer since 1993 and am
> >>>>> able to recognize infinite recursion and additionally, and more
> >>>>> importantly, a lack of infinite recursion.  
> >>>>
> >>>> This has been disproven in that you did not see this:
> >>>>     
> >>>>    >>>> H sees that P is calling the same function from the same
> >>>>    >>>> machine address with identical parameters, twice in
> >>>>    >>>> sequence. This is the infinite recursion (infinitely
> >>>>    >>>> nested simulation) non-halting behavior pattern.  
> >>>    
> >>> I am not talking about your braindead simulation, I am talking
> >>> about the halting problem proofs you are trying to refute: THEY
> >>> DO NOT HAVE AN INFINITE RECURSION.
> >>>
> >>> /Flibble
> >>>      
> >>
> >> My proofs prove that they do.
> >> That you fail to comprehend this is no rebuttal at all.  
> >   
> > Only your simulation contains an infinite recursion due to a
> > category error ON YOUR PART. Your category error is proof that your
> > simulation-based proof is in error.
> > 
> > /Flibble
> >   
> 
>  > PO's idea is to have a simulator with an infinite cycle detector.
>  > You would achieve this by modifying a UTM, so describing it as
>  > a "modified UTM", or "acts like a UTM until it detects an infinite
>  > cycle", is reasonable. And such a machine is a fairly powerful
>  > halt decider. Even if the infinite cycle detector isn't very
>  > sophisticated, it will still catch a large subset of non-halting
>  > machines.  

There is no point detecting infinite cycles as there is no infinite
recursion in the halting problem proofs you are trying to refute.

/Flibble

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Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ](V2) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-11 13:07 -0500
  Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ](V2) Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2022-05-11 20:11 +0100
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      Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ](V2) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-11 21:02 -0400
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        Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ](V2) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-12 12:43 -0500
      Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ](V2) Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2022-05-12 18:43 +0100
        Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ](V2) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-12 12:45 -0500
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            Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ](V2) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-12 12:51 -0500
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                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ](V2) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-12 15:18 -0500
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                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ](V2) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-12 20:32 -0500
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                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ](V2) Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-13 13:38 +0100
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ](V2) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-12 20:56 -0400
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                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ](V2) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-12 18:50 -0400
              Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ](V2) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-12 18:46 -0400
          Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ](V2) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-12 18:45 -0400
  Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ](V2) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-11 19:41 -0400
  Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ](V2) Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-12 01:17 +0100
    Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ](V2) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-11 19:29 -0500
      Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ](V2) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-11 20:52 -0400
      Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ](V2) Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-12 02:10 +0100
        Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ](V2) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-11 21:29 -0500
          Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ](V2) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-11 23:02 -0400
          Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ](V2) Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-12 23:54 +0100
            Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ](V2) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-12 18:21 -0500
              Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ](V2) Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2022-05-13 00:24 +0100
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ](V2) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-12 18:42 -0500
              Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ](V2) Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-13 01:35 +0100
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-12 20:25 -0500
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-12 21:41 -0400
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-13 12:05 +0100
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-13 12:01 -0500
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-13 20:06 +0100
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-13 14:24 -0500
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-13 16:11 -0400
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-13 15:22 -0500
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                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-13 15:38 -0500
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc> - 2022-05-13 21:44 +0100
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] wij <wyniijj2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-13 13:27 -0700
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-13 17:22 -0400
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-13 16:48 -0500
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-13 18:04 -0400
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-13 17:06 -0500
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-13 19:07 -0400
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-13 18:09 -0500
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-13 19:20 -0400
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-13 18:26 -0500
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-13 20:04 -0400
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-13 19:20 -0500
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-13 20:41 -0400
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2022-05-13 19:03 -0600
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-13 21:21 -0400
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-13 22:37 -0500
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-13 23:46 +0100
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-13 17:57 -0500
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-13 19:09 -0400
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-13 18:18 -0500
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-13 20:09 -0400
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-14 01:03 +0100
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-13 19:11 -0500
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-14 01:18 +0100
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-13 19:22 -0500
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] Ben <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-05-14 01:28 +0100
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-14 11:45 +0300
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-14 04:28 -0500
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-14 15:55 +0300
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-14 08:53 -0500
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-15 12:05 +0300
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-13 16:11 +0300
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2022-05-13 11:15 -0500
                Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ foundation of truth itself ] Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-14 11:26 +0300
              Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ](V2) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-05-12 21:03 -0400
  Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ](V2) Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2022-05-13 16:02 +0300
  Re: Proof that H(P,P)==0 is correct [ refuting the halting problem proofs ](V2) wij <wyniijj2@gmail.com> - 2022-05-13 12:21 -0700

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