Re: if cargo blocks

From	Ralf Goertz <me@myprovider.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c, comp.lang.c++
Subject	Re: if cargo blocks
Date	2019-01-01 14:27 +0100
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID	<20190101142714.3ea5afa2@assi.fritz.box> (permalink)
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Am Tue, 1 Jan 2019 11:43:51 +0100
schrieb Ralf Goertz <me@myprovider.invalid>:

> Am Mon, 31 Dec 2018 11:50:39 -0700
> schrieb rbowman <bowman@montana.com>:
> 
> > On 12/30/2018 09:21 PM, Ralf Goertz wrote:  
> > > Interestingly, for me both ending with a preposition
> > > and splitting an infinitive feel very "English" probably because
> > > there is no way you could use either construct in a German
> > > sentence.    
> > 
> > Is 'Wo gehen Sie hin?' or splitting 'davon' acceptable?  
> 
> Okay, I didn't think about that (spitting). "Wo gehen Sie hin" is
> acceptable but "Wohin gehen Sie?" is slightly better imho.

On second thought I doubt that this really is an example of splitting
"wohin" but of "hingehen". It is not so obvious here because of the
ambiguity. But when you say "Gehen Sie hin!" and the similar "Sie sollen
hingehen!" there is no "wo" the "hin" could have been cut from (from
which the "hin" could have been cut ;-)). Furthermore, according to the
Duden neither "hin" nor "davon" are prepositions but adverbs. So I guess
my initial assumption of no preposition in the end of a German sentence
still holds.

PS: I probably misread your entire post. Now I think you asked when (or
whether at all) it is acceptable to split verbs in German. Short answer:
as with the piling up of verbs in the end of a subordinate sentence or
one that is in present or past perfect it is more common to have to
split composite verbs. But not always. You say "Er /trennt/ die
Briefmarke (vom Brief) /ab/" but "Er /durchtrennt/ die Stromleitungen"…

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if cargo blocks "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-12-29 10:42 -0500
  Re: if cargo blocks David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-12-29 17:26 +0100
    Re: if cargo blocks Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2018-12-29 16:32 +0000
  Re: if cargo blocks Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-12-29 16:56 +0000
    Re: if cargo blocks "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-12-29 12:34 -0500
      Re: if cargo blocks Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-12-29 23:49 +0000
        Re: if cargo blocks "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-12-29 18:52 -0500
          Re: if cargo blocks Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2018-12-30 00:12 +0000
          Re: if cargo blocks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-12-29 19:04 -0700
            Re: if cargo blocks Ralf Goertz <me@myprovider.invalid> - 2018-12-30 06:12 +0100
              Re: if cargo blocks David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-12-30 15:23 +0100
                Language (Was: if cargo blocks) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2018-12-30 15:39 +0000
                Re: Language (Was: if cargo blocks) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-12-30 11:23 -0700
                Re: if cargo blocks Ralf Goertz <me@myprovider.invalid> - 2018-12-31 05:21 +0100
                Re: if cargo blocks David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-12-31 18:09 +0100
                Re: if cargo blocks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-12-31 12:22 -0700
                Re: if cargo blocks Ralf Goertz <me@myprovider.invalid> - 2019-01-01 12:04 +0100
                Re: if cargo blocks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-12-31 11:50 -0700
                Re: if cargo blocks Ralf Goertz <me@myprovider.invalid> - 2019-01-01 11:43 +0100
                Re: if cargo blocks Ralf Goertz <me@myprovider.invalid> - 2019-01-01 14:27 +0100
                German grammar (Was: if cargo blocks) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2019-01-01 14:17 +0000
                Re: if cargo blocks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2019-01-01 11:04 -0700
                Re: if cargo blocks fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2019-01-01 10:38 -0800
                Re: if cargo blocks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2019-01-01 10:57 -0700
                DDR Ralf Goertz <me@myprovider.invalid> - 2019-01-01 21:18 +0100
                Re: DDR rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2019-01-01 16:18 -0700
                Re: if cargo blocks Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2019-01-01 16:30 -0800
              Re: if cargo blocks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-12-30 11:09 -0700
                Re: if cargo blocks Ralf Goertz <me@myprovider.invalid> - 2018-12-31 05:43 +0100
                Re: if cargo blocks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-12-31 12:06 -0700
              Linguistics. Re: if cargo blocks Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2019-01-01 16:27 -0800
                Re: Linguistics. Re: if cargo blocks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2019-01-01 22:30 -0700
                Re: Linguistics. Re: if cargo blocks Louis Krupp <lkrupp@nospam.pssw.com.invalid> - 2019-01-02 04:18 -0700
          Re: if cargo blocks Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-12-30 02:07 +0000
            Re: if cargo blocks "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-12-29 21:59 -0500
  Re: if cargo blocks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-12-29 13:57 -0700
    Re: if cargo blocks "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-12-29 16:03 -0500
      Re: if cargo blocks Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2018-12-29 21:32 +0000
      Re: if cargo blocks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-12-29 16:06 -0700
        Re: if cargo blocks "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-12-29 18:15 -0500
          Re: if cargo blocks fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2018-12-29 15:32 -0800
            Re: if cargo blocks fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2018-12-29 15:34 -0800
              Re: if cargo blocks fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2018-12-29 15:38 -0800
              Re: if cargo blocks "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-12-29 15:40 -0800
                Re: if cargo blocks fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2018-12-29 15:45 -0800
            Re: if cargo blocks "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-12-29 18:36 -0500
              Re: if cargo blocks fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2018-12-29 15:42 -0800
                Re: if cargo blocks "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-12-29 15:45 -0800
                Re: if cargo blocks fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2018-12-29 15:54 -0800
                Re: if cargo blocks "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-12-29 18:58 -0500
                Re: if cargo blocks fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2018-12-29 16:01 -0800
    Re: if cargo blocks "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-29 13:36 -0800
  Re: if cargo blocks "I Set My Girlfriend's Pantyhose on Fire" <cdalten@gmail.com> - 2018-12-29 13:16 -0800
    Re: if cargo blocks "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-12-29 16:32 -0500
  Re: if cargo blocks Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-12-30 13:00 -0800
    Re: if cargo blocks "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-12-30 16:12 -0500
      Re: if cargo blocks Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-12-30 13:31 -0800
        Re: if cargo blocks "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-12-30 16:45 -0500
          Re: if cargo blocks Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-12-30 22:17 +0000
            Re: if cargo blocks "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2018-12-30 17:22 -0500
              Re: if cargo blocks "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-30 20:25 -0800
  Re: if cargo blocks Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-01-03 09:50 +1300
    Re: if cargo blocks "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 15:54 -0500
      Re: if cargo blocks "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 16:29 -0500
        Re: if cargo blocks mark.bluemel@gmail.com - 2019-01-03 00:44 -0800
          Re: if cargo blocks "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 08:17 -0500
            Re: if cargo blocks mark.bluemel@gmail.com - 2019-01-03 05:40 -0800
              Re: if cargo blocks "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 09:15 -0500
            You are so full of shit (Was: if cargo blocks) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2019-01-03 13:42 +0000
            Re: if cargo blocks fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 12:27 -0800
        Re: if cargo blocks Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-01-04 11:11 +1300
          Re: if cargo blocks "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2019-01-03 14:37 -0800
          Re: if cargo blocks "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 17:48 -0500
          Re: if cargo blocks fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 14:59 -0800
      Re: if cargo blocks mark.bluemel@gmail.com - 2019-01-03 00:44 -0800
        Re: if cargo blocks "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 08:19 -0500
          Re: if cargo blocks mark.bluemel@gmail.com - 2019-01-03 05:43 -0800
            Re: if cargo blocks "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 05:51 -0800
          Re: if cargo blocks "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2019-01-03 13:22 -0800
      Re: if cargo blocks Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2019-01-04 11:10 +1300

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