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Re: Going Back To The Well Again

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Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> wrote:
> peterwezeman@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>On Monday, April 2, 2018 at 9:12:24 PM UTC-5, Greg Goss wrote:
>>> David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On 2018-03-26, D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
>>> >> Allow me to end this followup with a semi-serious question. Is there
>>> >> anything from the Golden Age that RAH didn't do first?
>>> >
>>> >...  Could also include other
>>> >portal SF, like The Fourth-Dimension Tube et seq.
>>>
>>> By portal, do you mean parallel dimension stuff? I'm coming up
>>> blank...
>>>
>>> No wait, wasn't there a story with a professor and his elite students
>>> trying some mystic thing that sent them cross-dimension?
>>>
>>This might be the Heinlein short story _Elsewhere_, which has been published
>>in the collection _Assignment in Eternity_.
>
> That sounds like it.  Wikipedia has it as Elsewhen.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsewhen

My earlier announced intention to try to plod through _Timescape_
(Benford) once more is a non-starter. The slog of my earlier half-way
read is still too fresh in mind. It might help if the Benford had a cat,
like _The Doorway Into Summer_ (RAH) or _Thrice Upon a Time_ (Hogan) or
a supercat like Fritz Leiber's Gummitch, with an IQ of 160.
    "Elsewhere" (Saunders) appears in the Sep 1941 edition of
_Astounding_ along with the conclusive third installment of
"Methuselah's Children" (RAH). Campbell probably uses RAH's pen name
Caleb Saunders to avoid having two stories by the same author appear in
a single issue.
    "Elsewhere"'s a great little story about time travel. It explores
Ouspensky's six dimensions. Nahin refers to it as "Elsewhen" under the
Multidimensional time section of _Time Machines_.
    Nahin's exploration of the story is noteworthy, because Nahin
typically focuses only on time machines. "Elsewhere" uses the hypnotism
and suggestion to achieve time travel. Psychological time travel is also
used in stories such as "The Gostak and the Doshes" (Breuer),
_Time and Again_ (Finney), _Bid Time Return_ (Matheson), and its
Hollywood treatment _Somewhere In Time_.
    The story introduces me to George Berkeley, the California city's
namesake. Wikipedia says that Berkeley's views were a precursor to Mach
and Einstein.
    In the story, Professor Arthur Frost's class in speculative
metaphysics meets for a Friday-evening seminar at the professor's home.
Student Robert Monroe says this about the question of multidimensional
time:

    How can the question mean anything to human beings if we aren't
    built to perceive more dimensions? It's like in mathematics -
    you can invent any system of mathematics you like, on any set of
    axioms, but a system isn't valid unless it can be used to describe
    some sort of phenomena. Otherwise it's just so much hot air.

Thank you,

--
Don

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Going Back To The Well Again David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-26 12:33 -0600
  Re: Going Back To The Well Again a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-26 12:08 -0700
    Re: Going Back To The Well Again Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-03-26 12:59 -0700
      Re: Going Back To The Well Again Johnny1A <johnny1a.again@gmail.com> - 2018-04-25 13:47 -0700
    Re: Going Back To The Well Again D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-03-26 20:47 +0000
      Re: Going Back To The Well Again Butch Malahide <fred.galvin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 13:15 -0700
        Re: Going Back To The Well Again wroehl@gmail.com - 2018-03-27 17:08 -0700
      Re: Going Back To The Well Again David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-02 03:40 -0500
        Re: Going Back To The Well Again Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-04-02 20:12 -0600
          Re: Going Back To The Well Again "Default User" <defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-03 04:49 +0000
          Re: Going Back To The Well Again peterwezeman@hotmail.com - 2018-04-02 23:29 -0700
            Re: Going Back To The Well Again Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-04-03 07:50 -0600
              Re: Going Back To The Well Again D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-04-03 17:02 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-04-03 17:34 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-04-04 13:30 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-04-05 17:22 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-04-05 18:27 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-04-05 19:04 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-04-05 13:36 -0700
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-04-06 11:33 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-04-05 21:57 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-04-24 17:01 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-05 19:09 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-04-06 11:34 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-04 04:22 -0500
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-04-04 07:09 -0400
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-04-04 06:50 -0700
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-07 01:07 -0500
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-04-07 07:27 -0400
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-04-07 07:19 -0700
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-07 20:33 -0500
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-04-07 21:54 -0400
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-04-07 21:33 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-07 22:08 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-04-07 16:46 -0700
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again "artyw2@yahoo.com" <artyw2@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-04 07:55 -0700
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-04-04 13:44 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-04-04 13:45 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-04-04 07:05 -0400
          YASID - finding your home dimension by its bridge design. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-04-03 07:51 -0600
          Re: Going Back To The Well Again "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-04-04 20:09 -0400
  Re: Going Back To The Well Again Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> - 2018-03-27 09:29 +1300
  Re: Going Back To The Well Again ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-03-26 20:46 +0000
    Re: Going Back To The Well Again Johnny1A <johnny1a.again@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 22:11 -0700
      Re: Going Back To The Well Again David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-26 23:20 -0600
  Re: Going Back To The Well Again Johnny1A <johnny1a.again@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 22:05 -0700
    Re: Going Back To The Well Again David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-26 23:25 -0600
      Re: Going Back To The Well Again Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-27 18:31 +0300
        Re: Going Back To The Well Again David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-27 12:37 -0600
      Re: Going Back To The Well Again David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-02 03:44 -0500
        Re: Going Back To The Well Again Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2018-04-02 12:38 -0700
        Re: Going Back To The Well Again Johnny1A <johnny1a.again@gmail.com> - 2018-04-25 13:52 -0700
  Going Back To The Well Again Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-03-27 08:43 -0700
    Re: Going Back To The Well Again David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-27 12:38 -0600
      Re: Going Back To The Well Again djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-27 19:45 +0000
  Re: Going Back To The Well Again William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 11:52 -0700
  Re: Going Back To The Well Again David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-02 03:38 -0500
    Re: Going Back To The Well Again Steve Coltrin <spcoltri@omcl.org> - 2018-04-02 18:39 -0600
  Re: Going Back To The Well Again "artyw2@yahoo.com" <artyw2@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-02 19:50 -0700
  Re: Going Back To The Well Again "artyw2@yahoo.com" <artyw2@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-02 19:52 -0700

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