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Re: Going Back To The Well Again

From D B Davis <g@crcomp.net>
Newsgroups rec.arts.sf.written
Subject Re: Going Back To The Well Again
Date 2018-04-05 18:27 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> wrote:
> On 2018-04-04, D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
>>
>> Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> wrote:
>>> On 2018-04-03, D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>     The story introduces me to George Berkeley, the California city's
>>>> namesake. Wikipedia says that Berkeley's views were a precursor to Mach
>>>> and Einstein.
>>>
>>> In the sense of "chronologically before"? Wow, that's absurd. I have to
>>> remember to fix that later.
>>
>> Here's an excerpt from the preface of "De Motu: Sive; De Motus Principio
>> Et Natura, Et De Causa Communicationis Motuum" (Berkeley 1721) [1]
>>
>>     All change of place in one body must be relative to other
>>     bodies, among which the moving body is supposed to change
>>     its place-our own bodies which we animate being of course
>>     recognised among the number.
>
> So he drew an analogy between his supernatural beliefs and the relativity of
> Galileo (which was the actual predecessor of Mach's and Einstein's)? Doesn't
> support your point.

    My own ignorance of Latin is profound. So that left me in the
unenviable position of using an except from the English preface, words
which were probably not written by Berkeley.
    Are you fluent enough in Latin to translate the Berkeley? If so,
"supernatural beliefs" is a fairly broad brush. Might you possibly
translate a tiny bit about the nature of Berkeley's supernatural
beliefs?
    If you're like me and you have only a rudimentary understanding of
Latin, how did you translate Berkeley's Latin into English in order to
formulate an opinion on his essay? Although translate.bing.com is one of
Microsoft's better efforts, it lacks a Latin translator. Is there an
English translation of the Berkeley available?

Thank you,

--
Don

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    Re: Going Back To The Well Again D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-03-26 20:47 +0000
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            Re: Going Back To The Well Again Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-04-03 07:50 -0600
              Re: Going Back To The Well Again D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-04-03 17:02 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-04-03 17:34 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-04-04 13:30 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-04-05 17:22 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-04-05 18:27 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-04-05 19:04 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-04-05 13:36 -0700
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-04-06 11:33 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-04-05 21:57 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-04-24 17:01 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-05 19:09 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-04-06 11:34 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-04 04:22 -0500
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                Re: Going Back To The Well Again J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-04-07 21:54 -0400
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-04-07 21:33 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-07 22:08 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-04-07 16:46 -0700
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again "artyw2@yahoo.com" <artyw2@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-04 07:55 -0700
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-04-04 13:44 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-04-04 13:45 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-04-04 07:05 -0400
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  Re: Going Back To The Well Again ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-03-26 20:46 +0000
    Re: Going Back To The Well Again Johnny1A <johnny1a.again@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 22:11 -0700
      Re: Going Back To The Well Again David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-26 23:20 -0600
  Re: Going Back To The Well Again Johnny1A <johnny1a.again@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 22:05 -0700
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