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Re: Going Back To The Well Again

From D B Davis <g@crcomp.net>
Newsgroups rec.arts.sf.written
Subject Re: Going Back To The Well Again
Date 2018-04-04 13:45 +0000
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David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On 2018-04-03, D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
>>     In the story, Professor Arthur Frost's class in speculative
>> metaphysics meets for a Friday-evening seminar at the professor's home.
>> Student Robert Monroe says this about the question of multidimensional
>> time:
>>
>>     How can the question mean anything to human beings if we aren't
>>     built to perceive more dimensions? It's like in mathematics -
>>     you can invent any system of mathematics you like, on any set of
>>     axioms, but a system isn't valid unless it can be used to describe
>>     some sort of phenomena. Otherwise it's just so much hot air.
>
> ... the scary thing, though, is just how MANY of those self-consistent
> axiomatic systems, built in mid-air, turn out later to have some actual
> physical use, or practical use/value. Physics is notorious for this; Einstein's
> Special Rel. made use of a four-dimensional manifold with a hyberbolic metric,
> a conformal geometry says W'pedia, while General Rel. went all the way to
> differential equations and a curved space using Riemannian manifolds, for
> example. Group theory is embedded deep in the heart of theoretical particle
> physics, which also uses 'renormalization', a way to sift -actual infinite
> numbers- out of solutions to get usable finite values.
>
> I'm not even gonna START on string theory; that be many wack math, yo.
> Meanwhile, biology has started using concepts from computer programming to
> describe just what the heck DNA and RNA actually get up to... and let us not
> forget Mendel's sweet-pea numbers, or Fourier transforms.
>
> Dave, there are apparently more things in heaven and earth to describe than
> can be simply listed and categorized

Euler's three dimensional wave equation may not count as an event where
the axioms came before the application. But imaginary numbers certainly
do, even if it took millennia for the application to appear. ;0)

Thank you,

--
Don

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    Re: Going Back To The Well Again D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-03-26 20:47 +0000
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      Re: Going Back To The Well Again David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-02 03:40 -0500
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            Re: Going Back To The Well Again Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-04-03 07:50 -0600
              Re: Going Back To The Well Again D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-04-03 17:02 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-04-03 17:34 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-04-04 13:30 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-04-05 17:22 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-04-05 18:27 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-04-05 19:04 +0000
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                Re: Going Back To The Well Again Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-04-06 11:33 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-04-05 21:57 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-04-24 17:01 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-05 19:09 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-04-06 11:34 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-04 04:22 -0500
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-04-04 07:09 -0400
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                Re: Going Back To The Well Again David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-07 20:33 -0500
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-04-07 21:54 -0400
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-04-07 21:33 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-07 22:08 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-04-07 16:46 -0700
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again "artyw2@yahoo.com" <artyw2@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-04 07:55 -0700
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-04-04 13:44 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-04-04 13:45 +0000
                Re: Going Back To The Well Again J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-04-04 07:05 -0400
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          Re: Going Back To The Well Again "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-04-04 20:09 -0400
  Re: Going Back To The Well Again Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> - 2018-03-27 09:29 +1300
  Re: Going Back To The Well Again ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-03-26 20:46 +0000
    Re: Going Back To The Well Again Johnny1A <johnny1a.again@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 22:11 -0700
      Re: Going Back To The Well Again David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-26 23:20 -0600
  Re: Going Back To The Well Again Johnny1A <johnny1a.again@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 22:05 -0700
    Re: Going Back To The Well Again David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-26 23:25 -0600
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      Re: Going Back To The Well Again David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-02 03:44 -0500
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