Re: Societies of superhumans

From	D B Davis <g@crcomp.net>
Newsgroups	rec.arts.sf.written
Subject	Re: Societies of superhumans
Date	2018-03-23 23:48 +0000
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID	<20180323d@crcomp.net> (permalink)
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Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
> In article <20180323c@crcomp.net>, D B Davis  <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Isn't a cloud of microorganisms is central to panspermia?  Among other
>>things, _The Black Cloud_ (Hoyle) leaves me with that impression.
>>Although _Brain Wave_ remains unread by me at present, a cloud of
>>handwavium seems similar to a cloud of microorganisms /to me/. YMMV and
>>obviously does.
>
> From what I remember of _Brain Wave_, it wasn't a cloud of
> microorganisms, but of Mysterious Galactic Force.  Poul didn't
> attempt to explain it; he was dealing with what happened as a
> result of Earth getting out of it.  Some people seized on their
> expanded intelligence with glee; others hated it (one woman blew
> some of her brains out, so as to go back to "normal").
>
> Much later, I was trying to rewrite a chunk of fanfic that Astrid
> Anderson and I had written in the sixties, in an attempt to make
> it salable (which failed), and Hal had invented a spacedrive for
> me, the "tachyone conversion drive."  It converted normal matter
> (aka "tardyons") into tachyons, which can only go *faster than*
> light.
>
> So Poul ran into Hal at a con or an SCA event or something, and
> asked him to explain the tachyon drive.  Hal said, "I'll explain
> it as soon as you explain quantum microjump."  And Poul said,
> "Gotcha."
>
> As I said, handwavium.
>

Michael's description of the premise behind the Anderson's excellent. It
makes me want to read the Anderson. Unfortunately, there's too many
other stories at the front of my line.
    Allow me to belatedly note that Michael and you bring a far more
comprehensive understanding of the flaws in my association to the table
beings both of you actually read _Brain Wave_. OTOH, in my simple world,
one interstellar cloud pretty much looks the same as the next, even if
one of them's not really a cloud but actually a stationary field.
    My own knowledge of "galactic blue shift" is just about exhausted at
this point. Someone once said in passing that steady state might explain
it.
    And, it really goes without saying that the sky map research done by
people such as John D Kraus is legendary. That said, maybe, just maybe,
something was overlooked in Hoyle's steady state theory.

Thank you,

--
Don

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Societies of superhumans The  Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 00:15 -0700
  Re: Societies of superhumans Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 06:43 -0700
    Re: Societies of superhumans Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 07:02 -0700
      Re: Societies of superhumans djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-23 14:29 +0000
      Re: Societies of superhumans Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-03-23 21:56 -0700
        Re: Societies of superhumans goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2018-03-24 18:08 +0000
          Re: Societies of superhumans Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-03-24 14:49 -0700
    Re: Societies of superhumans djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-23 14:27 +0000
    Re: Societies of superhumans Johnny1A <johnny1a.again@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 21:41 -0700
      Re: Societies of superhumans The  Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 21:49 -0700
  Re: Societies of superhumans djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-23 13:37 +0000
    Re: Societies of superhumans D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-03-23 18:45 +0000
      Re: Societies of superhumans Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-03-23 13:00 -0700
      Re: Societies of superhumans "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 15:03 -0500
        Re: Societies of superhumans D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-03-23 21:19 +0000
          Re: Societies of superhumans djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-23 22:25 +0000
            Re: Societies of superhumans D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-03-23 23:48 +0000
        Re: Societies of superhumans The  Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 19:37 -0700
          Re: Societies of superhumans David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-23 20:43 -0600
      Re: Societies of superhumans djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-23 20:04 +0000
        Re: Societies of superhumans "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 16:12 -0500
          Re: Societies of superhumans djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-23 22:26 +0000
      Re: Societies of superhumans The  Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 19:31 -0700
    Re: Societies of superhumans The  Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 19:19 -0700
      Re: Societies of superhumans goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2018-03-24 18:00 +0000
        Re: Societies of superhumans Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-03-25 09:57 -0700
  Re: Societies of superhumans Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2018-03-23 07:08 -0700
    Re: Societies of superhumans Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 07:39 -0700
    Re: Societies of superhumans The  Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 19:20 -0700
    Re: Societies of superhumans lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-25 08:51 -0700
      Re: Societies of superhumans djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-25 16:51 +0000
        Re: Societies of superhumans Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2018-03-25 10:16 -0700
          Re: Societies of superhumans Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-03-26 17:11 -0700
            Re: Societies of superhumans djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-27 00:18 +0000
              Re: Societies of superhumans Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-03-26 19:59 -0700
                Re: Societies of superhumans djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-27 05:55 +0000
                Re: Societies of superhumans Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-03-27 05:29 -0600
                Re: Societies of superhumans D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-03-27 15:57 +0000
                Re: Societies of superhumans The  Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 22:11 -0700
                Re: Societies of superhumans David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-02 04:29 -0500
                Re: Societies of superhumans The  Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 22:01 -0700
                Re: Societies of superhumans The  Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 21:54 -0700
                Re: Societies of superhumans Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2018-03-27 14:22 -0700
                Re: Societies of superhumans Johnny1A <johnny1a.again@gmail.com> - 2018-03-30 20:37 -0700
                Re: Societies of superhumans mcdowell_ag@sky.com - 2018-03-30 22:09 -0700
                Re: Societies of superhumans The  Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-31 01:25 -0700
                Re: Societies of superhumans Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-03-31 05:51 -0700
                Re: Societies of superhumans Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-03-31 20:07 -0700
        Re: Societies of superhumans lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-26 22:26 -0700
          Re: Societies of superhumans djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-27 05:55 +0000
            Re: Societies of superhumans The  Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 21:57 -0700
  Re: Societies of superhumans D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-03-23 14:22 +0000
    Re: Societies of superhumans The  Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 19:24 -0700
      Re: Societies of superhumans Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 15:40 -0500
  Societies of superhumans Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 07:39 -0700
    Re: Societies of superhumans Leo Sgouros <adravirgo@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 07:43 -0700
      Re: Societies of superhumans The  Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 19:27 -0700
    Re: Societies of superhumans djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-23 18:26 +0000
    Re: Societies of superhumans David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-02 04:37 -0500
  Re: Societies of superhumans David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-23 14:25 -0600
    Re: Societies of superhumans David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-02 04:49 -0500
  Re: Societies of superhumans "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-03-24 22:05 -0400
    Re: Societies of superhumans ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-03-25 03:21 +0000
      Re: Societies of superhumans Johnny1A <johnny1a.again@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 21:48 -0700
    Re: Societies of superhumans David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-24 21:37 -0600
      Re: Societies of superhumans "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-03-27 07:34 -0400
        Re: Societies of superhumans The  Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 22:06 -0700
          Re: Societies of superhumans David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-02 04:52 -0500
        Re: Societies of superhumans Johnny1A <johnny1a.again@gmail.com> - 2018-03-30 20:33 -0700
          Re: Societies of superhumans "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-03-31 10:17 -0400
            Re: Societies of superhumans mcdowell_ag@sky.com - 2018-03-31 08:50 -0700
              Re: Societies of superhumans David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-02 04:54 -0500
            Re: Societies of superhumans Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2018-03-31 09:40 -0700
            Re: Societies of superhumans Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> - 2018-03-31 12:37 -0700
            Re: Societies of superhumans David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-31 14:05 -0600
            Re: Societies of superhumans Johnny1A <johnny1a.again@gmail.com> - 2018-04-01 19:42 -0700
              Re: Societies of superhumans David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-01 21:22 -0600
                Re: Societies of superhumans ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-04-02 03:57 +0000
  Re: Societies of superhumans Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 15:36 -0500
    Re: Societies of superhumans Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 14:15 -0700
      Re: Societies of superhumans Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 16:22 -0500
        Re: Societies of superhumans Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-03-26 14:34 -0700
    Re: Societies of superhumans Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-03-26 14:25 -0700
      Re: Societies of superhumans Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 16:28 -0500

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