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| From | D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | rec.arts.sf.written |
| Subject | Re: Societies of superhumans |
| Date | 2018-03-23 14:22 +0000 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <20180323a@crcomp.net> (permalink) |
| References | <35f964bd-b204-4342-9da2-21e8e19ac2b1@googlegroups.com> |
The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> wrote:
> The idea of the superman pervades science fiction. But in most of the
> stories I have read, the superhumans are evil in some way and need to
> be destroyed. I have read very few in which all humans have become
> superhuman, compared to humanity of today. I am interested in hearing
> about stories which tackle this problem. That is, how to write a good
> story where all humans are superhuman, and so the story is not about
> the clash between the ordinary humans and superhumans.
>
> Maybe I should add that sometimes the clash set to some remove. The
> superhumans have become separated from the main branch of humanity,
> and the clash is between the main branch and separated superhumans.
>
Does superhuman cognition imparted by a brain augmentation device count?
If so, "Historical Crisis" and _Psychohistorical Crisis_ (Kingsbury)
both use "fams" (eg familiars) to achieve superhumanity. The fam is an
external symbiotic computer mind that's attached to the skull.
Although the humans in the stories fight each other their conflict
doesn't arise out hatred for The Other. Instead, it's a perfectly
acceptable, sensible, normal (to some) motivation. Various factions
simply crave more power.
You made your feelings toward Orson Scott Card known. Nonetheless,
don't some of his stories contain superhuman cognition?
If fountain-of-youth technology counts, there's the _TekWar_
(Goulart) franchise. Factions, which contain a mix of humans and robots,
fight each other for "good" reasons and not out of hatred for The Other.
One robot becomes bored with the constraints imposed by the three laws
of robotics (so to speak). The humans, as always, simply crave more
power.
Thank you,
--
Don
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Societies of superhumans The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 00:15 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 06:43 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 07:02 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-23 14:29 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-03-23 21:56 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2018-03-24 18:08 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-03-24 14:49 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-23 14:27 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans Johnny1A <johnny1a.again@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 21:41 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 21:49 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-23 13:37 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-03-23 18:45 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-03-23 13:00 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 15:03 -0500
Re: Societies of superhumans D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-03-23 21:19 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-23 22:25 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-03-23 23:48 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 19:37 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-23 20:43 -0600
Re: Societies of superhumans djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-23 20:04 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 16:12 -0500
Re: Societies of superhumans djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-23 22:26 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 19:31 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 19:19 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2018-03-24 18:00 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-03-25 09:57 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2018-03-23 07:08 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 07:39 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 19:20 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-25 08:51 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-25 16:51 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2018-03-25 10:16 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-03-26 17:11 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-27 00:18 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-03-26 19:59 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-27 05:55 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-03-27 05:29 -0600
Re: Societies of superhumans D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-03-27 15:57 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 22:11 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-02 04:29 -0500
Re: Societies of superhumans The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 22:01 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 21:54 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2018-03-27 14:22 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans Johnny1A <johnny1a.again@gmail.com> - 2018-03-30 20:37 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans mcdowell_ag@sky.com - 2018-03-30 22:09 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-31 01:25 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-03-31 05:51 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-03-31 20:07 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-26 22:26 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-27 05:55 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 21:57 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-03-23 14:22 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 19:24 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 15:40 -0500
Societies of superhumans Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 07:39 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans Leo Sgouros <adravirgo@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 07:43 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 19:27 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-23 18:26 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-02 04:37 -0500
Re: Societies of superhumans David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-23 14:25 -0600
Re: Societies of superhumans David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-02 04:49 -0500
Re: Societies of superhumans "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-03-24 22:05 -0400
Re: Societies of superhumans ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-03-25 03:21 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans Johnny1A <johnny1a.again@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 21:48 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-24 21:37 -0600
Re: Societies of superhumans "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-03-27 07:34 -0400
Re: Societies of superhumans The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 22:06 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-02 04:52 -0500
Re: Societies of superhumans Johnny1A <johnny1a.again@gmail.com> - 2018-03-30 20:33 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-03-31 10:17 -0400
Re: Societies of superhumans mcdowell_ag@sky.com - 2018-03-31 08:50 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-02 04:54 -0500
Re: Societies of superhumans Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2018-03-31 09:40 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> - 2018-03-31 12:37 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-31 14:05 -0600
Re: Societies of superhumans Johnny1A <johnny1a.again@gmail.com> - 2018-04-01 19:42 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-01 21:22 -0600
Re: Societies of superhumans ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-04-02 03:57 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 15:36 -0500
Re: Societies of superhumans Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 14:15 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 16:22 -0500
Re: Societies of superhumans Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-03-26 14:34 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-03-26 14:25 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 16:28 -0500
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