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| From | D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | rec.arts.sf.written |
| Subject | Re: Societies of superhumans |
| Date | 2018-03-23 18:45 +0000 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <20180323b@crcomp.net> (permalink) |
| References | <35f964bd-b204-4342-9da2-21e8e19ac2b1@googlegroups.com> <p61pu1.1qsJ@kithrup.com> |
Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
> In article <35f964bd-b204-4342-9da2-21e8e19ac2b1@googlegroups.com>,
> The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>The idea of the superman pervades science fiction. But in most of the
>>stories I have read, the superhumans are evil in some way and need to be
>>destroyed. I have read very few in which all humans have become
>>superhuman, compared to humanity of today. I am interested in hearing
>>about stories which tackle this problem. That is, how to write a good
>>story where all humans are superhuman, and so the story is not about the
>>clash between the ordinary humans and superhumans.
>
>>Maybe I should add that sometimes the clash set to some remove. The
>>superhumans have become separated from the main branch of humanity, and
>>the clash is between the main branch and separated superhumans.
>
> Well, Anderson's _Brain Wave_, in which the Solar System drifts
> out of a cloud of handwavium and everybody becomes much more
> intelligent. Some people can't take it.
>
> Van Vogt's _Slan,_ of course. They're not superhumans, but they
> are telepaths, which gives everybody else the creeps.
>
> Ditto Padgett's _Mutant_, whose Baldies have the same problem.
>
> Heinlein's _Methuselah's Children_ comes to mind, in which the
> Howard Families have to leave Earth because of conflict with
> normals ... but they're not superhumans, with the exception maybe
> of Andrew Libby. They're just longaevi.
>
> This is just off the top of my head at 6:30 in the morning. Note
> also that these are all old stories. Others will be able to
> provide some newer ones.
>
Re: _Brain Wave_. Shades of Fred Hoyle's panspermia. Most people who
give a hoot in hell about Hoyle like that theory. It's not my favorite
theory. Hoyle's steady state universe theory is my favorite theory
because it explains galactic blue shifts. Most people who like the
panspermia theory don't like the steady state theory. So, that makes me
out of step with most people who give a hoot in hell about Hoyle.
Re: _Slan_. Do the Dreeges of "Asylum" (Van Vogt) count? If so, then
surely _Twilight_ (Meyers) along with most of Unnatural Quarter stomping
grounds of Dan Shamble, Zombie P.I.
Do mutants count? If so, there's "The Golden Man" (PKD), _Flow My
Tears the Policeman Said_ (PKD) and _Jumper_ (Gould).
People with six fingers can enter accelerated time at their pleasure
in "Six Fingers of Time" (Lafferty). "Big Ancestor" (Wallace) contains
a mix of humans in different stages of evolution who more-or-less get
along.
Thank you,
--
Don
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Societies of superhumans The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 00:15 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 06:43 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 07:02 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-23 14:29 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-03-23 21:56 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2018-03-24 18:08 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-03-24 14:49 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-23 14:27 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans Johnny1A <johnny1a.again@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 21:41 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 21:49 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-23 13:37 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-03-23 18:45 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-03-23 13:00 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 15:03 -0500
Re: Societies of superhumans D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-03-23 21:19 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-23 22:25 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-03-23 23:48 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 19:37 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-23 20:43 -0600
Re: Societies of superhumans djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-23 20:04 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 16:12 -0500
Re: Societies of superhumans djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-23 22:26 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 19:31 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 19:19 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2018-03-24 18:00 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-03-25 09:57 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2018-03-23 07:08 -0700
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Re: Societies of superhumans The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 19:20 -0700
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Re: Societies of superhumans djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-25 16:51 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2018-03-25 10:16 -0700
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Re: Societies of superhumans djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-27 00:18 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-03-26 19:59 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-27 05:55 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-03-27 05:29 -0600
Re: Societies of superhumans D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-03-27 15:57 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 22:11 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-02 04:29 -0500
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Re: Societies of superhumans The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 21:54 -0700
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Re: Societies of superhumans djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-27 05:55 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 21:57 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-03-23 14:22 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 19:24 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 15:40 -0500
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Re: Societies of superhumans djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-23 18:26 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-02 04:37 -0500
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Re: Societies of superhumans The Zygon <stafford.martin@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 22:06 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-02 04:52 -0500
Re: Societies of superhumans Johnny1A <johnny1a.again@gmail.com> - 2018-03-30 20:33 -0700
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Re: Societies of superhumans mcdowell_ag@sky.com - 2018-03-31 08:50 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-02 04:54 -0500
Re: Societies of superhumans Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2018-03-31 09:40 -0700
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Re: Societies of superhumans David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-31 14:05 -0600
Re: Societies of superhumans Johnny1A <johnny1a.again@gmail.com> - 2018-04-01 19:42 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-01 21:22 -0600
Re: Societies of superhumans ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-04-02 03:57 +0000
Re: Societies of superhumans Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 15:36 -0500
Re: Societies of superhumans Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 14:15 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 16:22 -0500
Re: Societies of superhumans Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-03-26 14:34 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-03-26 14:25 -0700
Re: Societies of superhumans Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 16:28 -0500
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