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Re: Common morals/subtexts

From D B Davis <g@crcomp.net>
Newsgroups rec.arts.sf.written
Subject Re: Common morals/subtexts
Date 2018-03-22 20:13 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <20180322d@crcomp.net> (permalink)
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Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, March 22, 2018 at 12:19:34 PM UTC-4, D B Davis wrote:
>
>>     Meanwhile, in public school (before Catholic school, honors classes,
>> and early graduation) the whole class patiently waited for the slowest
>> pupil to ever so s-l-o-w-l-y grok the meaning of "See Dick Run." At
>> first, such stupid spells proved excruciatingly painful to the brighter
>>    But the brighter kids soon taught themselves to play mental
>> solitaire (so to speak) until the stupid subsided. Judging by the follow
>> ups to this thread, the brighter kids eventually found their way into
>> rasw.
>
> Were you broken up into "reading groups" in the early grades?
> My 1st grade (Catholic school, early 60s) had us classed as
> Jets, Planes and Gliders.  We did take turns reading aloud,
> and when the Glider kids gave it a try, you could see the Jets,
> and even some Planes, squirming, trying not to incur Sista's wrath,
> by blurting out some version of "get ON with it, buddy!"
>
> Nowadays that would be considered egregious labeling by the
> self-esteem polizei.

We made circular formations to /talk/ about stories. Reading was mostly
a solo activity. Sometimes little plays took place in class. Classroom
plays required you to memorize your little lines.
    It's mean of me label slow readers. OTOH, they made time pass even
slower.
    Time already passes very slowly for children, to slow it down even
further makes it painful. _Man and Time_ (Priestley) talks about the
phenomenon:

    ... the incorrupted high-speed metabolism of childhood can by
    unconscious comparison make time seem to crawl, so that Christmas
    or the seaside holiday will never arrive.
        People dealing with children should always remember this
    different time scale and its magnification of things. When
    children meet cruelty or even unkindness or neglect, there
    seems to them no end to it, they face eons of menace and
    misery and hopeless bewilderment, they feel lost in a
    nightmare world that no adults, however much they might suffer,
    ever stumble into again.

Thank you,

--
Don

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Common morals/subtexts mcdowell_ag@sky.com - 2018-03-02 11:31 -0800
  Re: Common morals/subtexts Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-03-02 13:44 -0800
    Re: Common morals/subtexts Elaine T <efthomp_99@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-02 15:06 -0800
    Re: Common morals/subtexts djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-03 00:15 +0000
      Re: Common morals/subtexts Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-03-04 07:24 -0800
    Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-02 22:27 -0500
      Re: Common morals/subtexts "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2018-03-03 16:00 -0600
        Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-03 17:36 -0500
          Re: Common morals/subtexts "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2018-03-03 18:32 -0600
          Re: Common morals/subtexts "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-03-04 01:30 -0500
            Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 03:16 -0500
              Re: Common morals/subtexts "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-03-05 22:11 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 06:52 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2018-03-06 10:04 -0800
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 22:16 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-03-07 23:11 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2018-03-10 10:44 -0600
                Re: Common morals/subtexts "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2018-03-10 11:36 -0600
                Re: Common morals/subtexts David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-03-14 14:46 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-14 22:21 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-03-15 15:08 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-03-18 19:17 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-18 19:25 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2018-03-20 18:24 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-03-21 00:45 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2018-03-20 03:56 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-20 05:43 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-03-20 14:12 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-19 23:51 -0600
                Re: Common morals/subtexts "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-03-20 19:16 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-03-22 16:19 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-03-22 12:16 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-03-22 20:13 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-03-23 07:21 -0600
                Re: Common morals/subtexts David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-02 03:20 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-22 13:17 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-03-23 23:05 -0600
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 05:27 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 01:49 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2018-03-24 10:45 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-03-25 13:21 -0600
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2018-03-25 20:27 +0100
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-03-25 12:45 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 08:37 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-03-24 12:16 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-03-21 04:47 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-21 07:21 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts mcdowell_ag@sky.com - 2018-03-21 13:16 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-21 18:57 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-21 16:14 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2018-03-22 12:10 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-22 13:10 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-22 22:37 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 04:05 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2018-03-22 22:54 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 08:57 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 13:59 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 13:01 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-23 20:09 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 15:13 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2018-03-24 16:40 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 15:11 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 15:09 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 18:43 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 18:03 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-03-23 18:40 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 23:30 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-02 03:29 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-04-02 08:27 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 05:17 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 22:30 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 08:39 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 19:24 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 13:15 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 01:22 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-03-25 03:12 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 04:07 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-03-25 21:09 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-03-26 04:13 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-03-25 21:57 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 05:05 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-03-25 13:21 -0600
                Re: Common morals/subtexts David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-02 03:32 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2018-03-25 15:46 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-02 03:30 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 05:16 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 19:21 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 02:31 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 21:40 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 06:13 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-03-22 10:02 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-03-22 15:43 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-22 16:12 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-22 22:38 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 08:58 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-03-21 18:40 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-02 03:18 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-04-04 20:10 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-03-21 21:07 -0600
                Re: Common morals/subtexts "Default User" <defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-19 19:06 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-03-14 14:41 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-14 22:22 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-03-16 06:26 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-16 22:15 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-03-18 19:19 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-03-18 19:17 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-14 13:00 -0700
            Re: Common morals/subtexts Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-03-04 07:06 -0800
      Re: Common morals/subtexts Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-03-04 11:31 -0800
        Re: Common morals/subtexts Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2018-03-04 12:53 -0800
          Re: Common morals/subtexts Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-03-04 14:22 -0800
            Re: Common morals/subtexts Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2018-03-05 17:48 -0800
        Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 16:52 -0500
          Re: Common morals/subtexts Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-03-04 21:32 -0800
            Re: Common morals/subtexts Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 15:23 -0600
        Re: Common morals/subtexts "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-03-05 22:15 -0500
          Re: Common morals/subtexts Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-03-05 20:02 -0800
            Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 07:03 -0500
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                Re: Common morals/subtexts larry <ljmoore@wightman.ca> - 2018-04-07 21:35 +0000
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                Re: Common morals/subtexts Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-04-07 15:54 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-04-07 19:15 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-04-07 16:31 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-04-07 19:40 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-07 20:24 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-04-07 21:42 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2018-04-08 10:32 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-04-08 01:53 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-04-07 16:57 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-04-07 21:05 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-04-08 01:52 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-04-07 16:20 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-04-07 19:43 -0400
              Re: Common morals/subtexts Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-03-06 09:17 -0800
                Re: Common morals/subtexts jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-03-06 17:18 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-03-06 13:21 -0800
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 22:18 -0500
              Re: Common morals/subtexts David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-07 16:34 -0600
            Re: Common morals/subtexts William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 12:26 -0800
          Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 06:54 -0500
            Re: Common morals/subtexts "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2018-03-07 01:14 +1100
              Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 22:20 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2018-03-07 15:28 +1100
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 00:19 -0500
            Re: Common morals/subtexts Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-03-06 13:23 -0800
    Re: Common morals/subtexts mcdowell_ag@sky.com - 2018-03-02 22:39 -0800
  Re: Common morals/subtexts "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-03-02 17:53 -0500
    Re: Common morals/subtexts mcdowell_ag@sky.com - 2018-03-03 06:05 -0800
      Re: Common morals/subtexts "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-03-03 09:50 -0500
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