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Re: Common morals/subtexts

From D B Davis <g@crcomp.net>
Newsgroups rec.arts.sf.written
Subject Re: Common morals/subtexts
Date 2018-03-22 16:19 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <20180322ba@crcomp.net> (permalink)
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David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 2018-03-18 5:17 PM, Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) wrote:

<snip>

>>
>>  Depends on the person. No teacher in school showed me how to read.
>> That was my mother who started me, and I did the rest.
>
> Ah but who taught your mother?
>

Grandmothers all the way down? "Nine Hundred Grandmothers" perhaps?
    My mother taught me the alphabet at a tender age. After that, there
was no stopping me. There was a need deep within me to understand those
things made out of a sheaf of paper (eg books). Authors wanted to tell
me important things.
    Outliers, such as the lower case g, double storey style, caught my
attention. There was no double storey g on the large, standard-issue,
elementary school room upper and lower-case alphabet short-and-wide
poster prominently displayed near the ceiling above my teacher's desk.
    The double storey g was notably absent /in school/ and yet it was
found in all of the interesting books /at home/. The books at home that
were harder to read, that contained many polysyllabic words, with
sentences much longer than "See Dick run."
    Meanwhile, in public school (before Catholic school, honors classes,
and early graduation) the whole class patiently waited for the slowest
pupil to ever so s-l-o-w-l-y grok the meaning of "See Dick Run." At
first, such stupid spells proved excruciatingly painful to the brighter
kids. But the brighter kids soon taught themselves to play mental
solitaire (so to speak) until the stupid subsided. Judging by the follow
ups to this thread, the brighter kids eventually found their way into
rasw.

Thank you,

--
Don

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Common morals/subtexts mcdowell_ag@sky.com - 2018-03-02 11:31 -0800
  Re: Common morals/subtexts Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-03-02 13:44 -0800
    Re: Common morals/subtexts Elaine T <efthomp_99@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-02 15:06 -0800
    Re: Common morals/subtexts djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-03 00:15 +0000
      Re: Common morals/subtexts Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-03-04 07:24 -0800
    Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-02 22:27 -0500
      Re: Common morals/subtexts "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2018-03-03 16:00 -0600
        Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-03 17:36 -0500
          Re: Common morals/subtexts "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2018-03-03 18:32 -0600
          Re: Common morals/subtexts "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-03-04 01:30 -0500
            Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 03:16 -0500
              Re: Common morals/subtexts "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-03-05 22:11 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 06:52 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2018-03-06 10:04 -0800
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 22:16 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-03-07 23:11 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2018-03-10 10:44 -0600
                Re: Common morals/subtexts "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2018-03-10 11:36 -0600
                Re: Common morals/subtexts David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-03-14 14:46 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-14 22:21 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-03-15 15:08 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-03-18 19:17 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-18 19:25 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2018-03-20 18:24 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-03-21 00:45 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2018-03-20 03:56 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-20 05:43 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-03-20 14:12 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-19 23:51 -0600
                Re: Common morals/subtexts "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-03-20 19:16 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-03-22 16:19 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-03-22 12:16 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-03-22 20:13 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-03-23 07:21 -0600
                Re: Common morals/subtexts David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-02 03:20 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-22 13:17 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-03-23 23:05 -0600
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 05:27 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 01:49 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2018-03-24 10:45 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-03-25 13:21 -0600
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2018-03-25 20:27 +0100
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-03-25 12:45 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 08:37 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-03-24 12:16 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-03-21 04:47 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-21 07:21 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts mcdowell_ag@sky.com - 2018-03-21 13:16 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-21 18:57 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-21 16:14 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2018-03-22 12:10 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-22 13:10 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-22 22:37 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 04:05 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2018-03-22 22:54 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 08:57 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 13:59 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 13:01 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-03-23 20:09 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 15:13 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2018-03-24 16:40 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 15:11 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 15:09 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 18:43 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 18:03 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-03-23 18:40 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 23:30 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-02 03:29 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-04-02 08:27 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 05:17 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 22:30 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 08:39 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 19:24 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 13:15 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 01:22 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-03-25 03:12 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 04:07 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-03-25 21:09 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-03-26 04:13 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-03-25 21:57 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 05:05 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-03-25 13:21 -0600
                Re: Common morals/subtexts David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-02 03:32 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2018-03-25 15:46 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-02 03:30 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 05:16 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 19:21 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 02:31 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 21:40 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 06:13 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-03-22 10:02 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-03-22 15:43 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-22 16:12 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-22 22:38 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 08:58 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-03-21 18:40 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-02 03:18 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-04-04 20:10 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-03-21 21:07 -0600
                Re: Common morals/subtexts "Default User" <defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-19 19:06 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-03-14 14:41 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-14 22:22 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-03-16 06:26 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-16 22:15 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-03-18 19:19 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-03-18 19:17 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-03-14 13:00 -0700
            Re: Common morals/subtexts Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-03-04 07:06 -0800
      Re: Common morals/subtexts Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-03-04 11:31 -0800
        Re: Common morals/subtexts Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2018-03-04 12:53 -0800
          Re: Common morals/subtexts Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-03-04 14:22 -0800
            Re: Common morals/subtexts Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2018-03-05 17:48 -0800
        Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-04 16:52 -0500
          Re: Common morals/subtexts Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-03-04 21:32 -0800
            Re: Common morals/subtexts Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 15:23 -0600
        Re: Common morals/subtexts "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-03-05 22:15 -0500
          Re: Common morals/subtexts Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-03-05 20:02 -0800
            Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 07:03 -0500
              Re: Common morals/subtexts hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2018-03-06 05:13 -0800
                Re: Common morals/subtexts larry <ljmoore@wightman.ca> - 2018-04-07 21:35 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-04-07 18:01 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-04-07 15:54 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-04-07 19:15 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-04-07 16:31 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-04-07 19:40 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-07 20:24 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-04-07 21:42 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2018-04-08 10:32 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-04-08 01:53 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-04-07 16:57 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-04-07 21:05 -0400
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-04-08 01:52 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-04-07 16:20 -0700
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-04-07 19:43 -0400
              Re: Common morals/subtexts Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-03-06 09:17 -0800
                Re: Common morals/subtexts jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-03-06 17:18 +0000
                Re: Common morals/subtexts Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-03-06 13:21 -0800
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 22:18 -0500
              Re: Common morals/subtexts David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-07 16:34 -0600
            Re: Common morals/subtexts William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 12:26 -0800
          Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 06:54 -0500
            Re: Common morals/subtexts "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2018-03-07 01:14 +1100
              Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-06 22:20 -0500
                Re: Common morals/subtexts "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2018-03-07 15:28 +1100
                Re: Common morals/subtexts J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-03-07 00:19 -0500
            Re: Common morals/subtexts Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-03-06 13:23 -0800
    Re: Common morals/subtexts mcdowell_ag@sky.com - 2018-03-02 22:39 -0800
  Re: Common morals/subtexts "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-03-02 17:53 -0500
    Re: Common morals/subtexts mcdowell_ag@sky.com - 2018-03-03 06:05 -0800
      Re: Common morals/subtexts "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2018-03-03 09:50 -0500
    Re: Common morals/subtexts Juho Julkunen <giaotanj@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-03 22:35 +0200
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