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Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :)

From anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :)
Date 2016-01-08 17:06 +0000
Organization Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien
Message-ID <2016Jan8.180640@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> (permalink)
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Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> writes:
>On 08/01/2016 11:27, Anton Ertl wrote:
>> However, note:
>>
>> |16.3.3 Finding definition names
>> |
>> |[...] An ambiguous condition exists if a program changes the compilation
>> |word list during the compilation of a definition [...]
>
>I wasn't aware of that one. It makes my claim about using 
>EXECUTE-PARSING to define :NAME wrong. But OTOH looking at Hugh's Novice 
>package :NAME does exactly the same thing
>
>... GET-CURRENT >R SET-CURRENT ( create a string and evaluate it ) R> 
>SET-CURRENT
>
>so he's violating that ambiguous condition as well.
>Therefore both versions can only use the compilation wordlist so there 
>is no point in passing a wordlist into :NAME

The question is what happens when CURRENT is different at : and at ;
(or wherever the new word is revealed).  Let's see:

vocabulary v1 vocabulary v2 also v1 definitions
: bla [ v2 ] ;
cr .( v1) v1 words
cr .( v2) v2 words

vfxlin outputs:
cr ." v1" v1 words 
v1
Words in V1  
BLA              ok
cr ." v2" v2 words 
v2
Words in V2  

sf outputs:
cr ." v1" v1 words 
bla  ok
cr ." v2" v2 words 
 ok

Gforth outputs:
cr ." v1" v1 words 
v1
bla  ok
cr ." v2" v2 words 
v2
 ok

iForth-2.1 outputs:
v2> cr .( v1) v1 words 
v1
bla                                 
 ok
v1> cr .( v2) v2 words 
v2
                  
 ok

So these systems put the word in the wordlist that is current during
:.  Are there any systems that do something else?  Maybe we can remove
this ambiguous condition?

- anton
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                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-12-31 13:56 +0000
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                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-01-03 19:57 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-01-04 22:49 +0000
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                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-01-08 17:00 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-01-08 04:52 -0600
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-01-08 11:27 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-01-08 16:44 +0000
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                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-01-08 20:24 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-01-09 17:05 +0000
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                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-01-12 13:26 +0000
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                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-01-12 13:23 -1000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-01-12 20:42 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-01-12 21:08 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-01-13 15:17 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) peter.m.falth@gmail.com - 2016-01-13 13:26 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-01-04 14:19 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-05 07:24 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-31 16:24 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-12-29 12:31 -1000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-12-29 14:52 -0800
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                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-01-01 16:31 -1000
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                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-12-31 13:31 +0000
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                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-01-01 14:13 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-12-31 14:34 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-12-31 22:39 +0100
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-01-01 10:05 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-01-01 18:16 +0100
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                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-01-02 14:20 +0100
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-02 16:34 +0000
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                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Chris Curl <ccurl609@gmail.com> - 2015-12-30 08:28 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-12-30 11:11 +0000
          Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Chris Curl <ccurl609@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 15:40 -0800
            Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-12-30 10:14 +1100
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