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Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :)

From anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :)
Date 2016-01-01 14:13 +0000
Organization Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien
Message-ID <2016Jan1.151357@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> (permalink)
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"Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> writes:
>On 12/31/15 3:31 AM, Anton Ertl wrote:
>> stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) writes:
>>> It
>>> is for reasons such as this that
>>>   BUFFER:  ( u -- ; -- addr )
>>> is useful on destop systems as well as embedded systems.
[...]
>> And BUFFER: is not particularly useful on desktop
>> systems.
>
>I agree with Anton, except for the last sentence. What's the matter with 
>BUFFER: on a desktop?

What I had in mind when I wrote that is that

CREATE <word> <u> ALLOT

is just as good on the desktop.

But now that you got me thinking about it, I notice that, except for
throwaway code, I rarely use CREATE in that way (and don't use BUFFER:
at all).  Why?  Because the size is typically given at run-time to
allow flexibility, or the size may even grow (e.g., with RESIZE).

- anton
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Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Chris Curl <ccurl609@gmail.com> - 2015-10-06 21:44 -0700
  Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2015-10-07 08:24 +0200
  Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-10-07 00:48 -0700
    Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Chris Curl <ccurl609@gmail.com> - 2015-10-07 05:41 -0700
  Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-07 12:05 -0700
  Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Chris Curl <ccurl609@gmail.com> - 2015-12-27 18:04 -0800
    Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-12-27 18:12 -0800
      Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-12-28 13:33 +0100
  Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 00:54 -0800
  Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Chris Curl <ccurl609@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 12:32 -0800
    Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-12-28 12:43 -0800
      Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-12-28 22:13 +0100
        Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-12-28 13:21 -0800
          Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-12-28 23:47 +0100
      Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Chris Curl <ccurl609@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 13:13 -0800
        Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-12-28 23:50 +0100
          Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Chris Curl <ccurl609@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 15:33 -0800
            Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-12-28 15:37 -1000
              Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Chris Curl <ccurl609@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 22:18 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-12-28 22:31 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Chris Curl <ccurl609@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 23:30 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-12-29 02:47 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Chris Curl <ccurl609@gmail.com> - 2015-12-29 08:19 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-12-29 08:26 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Chris Curl <ccurl609@gmail.com> - 2015-12-29 09:34 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-12-29 10:22 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-30 12:15 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Chris Curl <ccurl609@gmail.com> - 2015-12-30 08:26 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-31 16:10 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-12-30 08:35 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-12-30 08:51 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-12-30 12:21 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-12-30 10:46 -1000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-12-30 13:15 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-12-30 13:11 -1000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-12-30 15:35 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-12-30 15:00 -1000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-12-31 00:13 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-12-31 10:09 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-12-31 13:46 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-12-31 13:56 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-31 17:24 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-01-01 14:23 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-01 20:24 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-01-01 22:38 +0100
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-01-02 13:24 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-01-02 15:32 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-02 16:41 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-01-03 14:43 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-01-02 13:13 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-31 16:57 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-31 16:41 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-12-31 14:13 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-12-31 22:27 +0100
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-01-01 13:38 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-01-01 18:46 +0100
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-01-01 09:01 -1000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-01-01 22:35 +0100
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-01-01 08:39 -1000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-01-01 21:01 +0100
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-01 20:18 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-12-31 22:19 +0100
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-01 21:43 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2016-01-01 23:36 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-01-02 15:36 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-02 12:18 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-01-03 14:34 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-01-03 19:57 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-01-04 22:49 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-01-04 15:05 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-01-04 20:36 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-01-05 13:03 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Chris Curl <ccurl609@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 14:30 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-01-05 21:10 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-01-05 21:26 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Chris Curl <ccurl609@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 05:01 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-06 00:13 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-01-06 19:47 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-01-07 21:43 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Chris Curl <ccurl609@gmail.com> - 2016-01-08 05:54 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-08 16:44 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-01-08 16:27 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-01-08 17:18 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-01-08 17:00 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-01-08 04:52 -0600
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-01-08 11:27 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-01-08 16:44 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-01-08 21:17 +0100
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-01-08 16:57 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-01-08 17:06 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2016-01-08 20:24 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-01-09 17:05 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2016-01-08 20:02 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-01-08 21:49 +0100
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-01-09 22:06 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-01-10 07:46 -0600
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-01-10 14:35 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-01-10 11:55 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-01-12 13:26 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) peter.m.falth@gmail.com - 2016-01-12 15:10 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-01-12 13:23 -1000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-01-12 20:42 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-01-12 21:08 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-01-13 15:17 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) peter.m.falth@gmail.com - 2016-01-13 13:26 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-01-04 14:19 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-05 07:24 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2015-12-31 16:24 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-12-29 12:31 -1000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-12-29 14:52 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-12-30 02:11 +0100
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-12-29 23:46 -1000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-12-30 21:25 +1100
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-12-30 09:17 -1000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-12-31 12:55 +1100
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-12-30 16:26 -1000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-01-02 12:30 +1100
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-01-01 16:31 -1000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Chris Curl <ccurl609@gmail.com> - 2016-01-01 21:31 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2016-01-02 12:04 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-12-31 12:04 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-12-31 13:31 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-12-31 08:50 -1000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-01-01 14:13 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-12-31 14:34 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-12-31 22:39 +0100
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-01-01 10:05 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-01-01 18:16 +0100
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Jan Coombs <jenfhaomndgfwutc@murmic.plus.com> - 2016-01-01 17:49 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-01-01 19:23 +0100
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-01 15:53 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-01-02 14:20 +0100
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-02 16:34 +0000
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Mikael Nordman <oh2aun@gmail.com> - 2016-01-02 14:08 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-12-30 20:40 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Chris Curl <ccurl609@gmail.com> - 2015-12-30 08:28 -0800
                Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-12-30 11:11 +0000
          Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Chris Curl <ccurl609@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 15:40 -0800
            Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-12-30 10:14 +1100
          Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-12-28 15:35 -1000
            Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-12-30 20:58 -0800
  Re: Boring for most of you, but I'm having fun ... :) Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-01-02 02:25 -0800

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