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| From | anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.forth |
| Subject | Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history |
| Date | 2014-01-30 15:32 +0000 |
| Organization | Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien |
| Message-ID | <2014Jan30.163213@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> (permalink) |
| References | (8 earlier) <lc12m8$5u1$1@online.de> <2014Jan27.164026@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <lc6kth$jvl$1@online.de> <2014Jan28.102553@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <lc8tt0$cib$1@online.de> |
Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> writes:
>Anton Ertl wrote:
>> Yes, but a word that is changed whenever some word is defined is
>> unusual.
>>
>> Ok, the value LASTXT returns changes whenever a word is defined, so we
>> have something like that already. But that's the only purpose of
>> LASTXT, so that's not really surprising. For RECURSE the original
>> purpose is just to compile a reference to the last defined word, not
>> to be a synonym for the last defined word, so for RECURSE it's
>> surprising, at least for me. Maybe we will find productive uses for
>> this new, extended RECURSE, and hopefully there are no pitfalls that
>> we find only afterwards.
>
>If you look at the rationale of RECURSE, you will find that "on some systems
>this is called MYSELF". If you think of RECURSE as MYSELF, I suspect that
>your surprise is going away.
Yes, MYSELF is probably less surprising in that respect, but even
worse than RECURSE for implementing recursion.
>The reason I made this change for was that the original RECURSE didn't do
>all what RECURSIVE could do. The obviously missing part is ['] the curent
>word.
Ok, but RECURSIVE is preferable anyway, because calling the word by
name instead of by RECURSE tells the reader the "what", not the "how".
And for the few cases where you want to tick the currently-defined
word, giving these words names is a small burden, if any (at least I
have not missed the ability to tick the current :NONAME definition
yet).
- anton
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quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> - 2014-01-19 13:15 -0500
Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-01-19 20:07 +0000
Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-01-19 21:45 +0000
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Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history Elizabeth D Rather <erather@forth.com> - 2014-01-20 12:07 -1000
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Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> - 2014-01-21 15:18 -0500
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Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-01-22 13:38 +0000
Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-01-22 08:50 -1000
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Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-01-24 15:07 +0100
Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-01-25 15:18 +0000
Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-01-25 20:18 +0100
Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2014-01-25 20:44 +0100
Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-01-25 21:41 +0100
Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-01-25 22:47 +0000
Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-01-26 01:54 +0100
Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-01-27 16:49 +0000
Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-01-27 15:40 +0000
Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-01-27 23:00 +0100
Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> - 2014-01-27 19:43 -0500
Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-01-28 09:25 +0000
Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-01-28 19:45 +0100
Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-01-30 15:32 +0000
Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-01-28 14:20 +0000
Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-01-25 15:28 +0000
Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-01-25 13:51 -0600
Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-01-27 15:34 +0000
Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2014-01-24 08:11 +0100
Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-01-24 01:28 -0800
Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> - 2014-01-24 05:00 -0500
Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-01-24 09:32 -1000
Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> - 2014-01-24 17:48 -0500
Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-01-24 13:14 -1000
Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-01-24 16:16 -0800
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Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-01-22 13:32 +0000
Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-01-20 04:14 -0800
Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-01-20 06:31 -0600
Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history Elizabeth D Rather <erather@forth.com> - 2014-01-20 08:04 -1000
Re: quick review of <BUILDS and CREATE history anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-01-21 14:09 +0000
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