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Re: Big problem with OS X

From Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Message-ID <2014011808271844445-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> (permalink)
References (14 earlier) <CEFE9C8B.A6705%ghost_topper@hotmail.com> <170120140826502063%michelle@michelle.org> <2014011708190514484-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> <170120140922201873%michelle@michelle.org> <x7Odnea6Xu5jPUfPnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@giganews.com>
Subject Re: Big problem with OS X
Organization http://www.panic.com/unison/
Date 2014-01-18 08:27 -0800

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On 2014-01-18 15:42:53 +0000, Alan Browne 
<alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> said:

> On 2014.01.17, 11:22 , Michelle Steiner wrote:
>> In article <2014011708190514484-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>> Then there are those of us who are somewhere in the spectrum between
>>>> those extremes.  The reason that I don't own a firearm is that I'd
>>>> rather spend my money on other things, but if I ever do buy one, it
>>>> will probably be this one:
>>>> 
>>>> <http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_75000
> 1_7
>>>> 50051_765955_-1_757767_757751_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y>
>>> 
>>> A good choice. You can't go too far wrong with a S&W wheel gun.
>> 
>> For financial reasons, I might opt for the seven- or even six-round
>> version instead of this eight-round one.
>> 
>> I'd shoot .38 at the range to keep in practice, but use .357 magnum for
> 
>> home protection.
> 
> You can shoot .38 through your .357 for practice (though you should 
> shoot some practice .357's as well).
> 
> But for home defense you might be better off with a 9mm or 10mm that you
> can control with more ammo in the mag than a revolver.

10mm is a harsh round to fire, double taps are not easy and there is a 
tendency for over penetration. That isn't a good thing inside a home. 
The FBI looked to the 10mm to replace the .38 Special as their official 
weapon after a notorious Florida shootout which resulted in several 
agents being killed and disabled. They subsequently found it was not a 
practical combat round and have pretty much gone to the .40 S&W, and 
the good old .45 ACP.

Our agency went from .38 Special +P. to 9mm, to .40 S&W which is now 
the standard.

For home defense a consideration should always be potential over 
penetration indoors, and the .357 mag, 9mm, & 10mm all have that 
potential. I will stick with my "flying ashtray" the .45 ACP and/or a 
shot gun.

If the gun is a 357/38sp I would use either Glaser Safety slugs, or 
MagSafe rounds for home defense, not FMJ or JHP ammo.
As far as needing more ammo goes, if you can't get it done with 6 shots 
you are in trouble, and a good double action revolver can remove some 
of the issues related to operator foul up under stress to be found with 
automatics. Like not having a round in the chamber, safety on, no 
magazine in the gun, all of which does happen.

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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Big problem with OS X William Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-01 23:30 +0000
  Re: Big problem with OS X JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-01 18:41 -0500
    Re: Big problem with OS X William Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-01 23:48 +0000
      Re: Big problem with OS X Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-01-01 21:31 -0500
        Re: Big problem with OS X gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-01 19:16 -0800
          Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-02 18:08 +1300
            Re: Big problem with OS X William Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-02 09:18 +0000
              Re: Big problem with OS X android <here@there.was> - 2014-01-02 10:30 +0100
              Re: Big problem with OS X Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-01-02 09:55 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X William Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-02 16:50 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-02 16:52 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X William Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-02 16:59 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-02 17:23 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-02 11:54 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-03 13:43 -0600
                Re: Big problem with OS X William Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-04 23:36 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-04 19:07 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X william-wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-05 00:29 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-05 13:29 +1300
                Re: Big problem with OS X gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-04 17:54 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-05 16:32 +1300
                Re: Big problem with OS X Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-01-05 16:09 +1100
                Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-05 19:20 +1300
                Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-05 01:33 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-05 10:21 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-05 04:08 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X android <here@there.was> - 2014-01-05 13:16 +0100
                Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-05 04:36 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X android <here@there.was> - 2014-01-05 13:43 +0100
                Re: Big problem with OS X gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-05 09:44 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-05 13:55 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-05 09:45 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-05 15:42 -0600
                Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-05 13:54 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-05 14:59 -0700
                Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-05 22:15 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-05 15:20 -0700
                Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-05 22:28 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-05 18:24 -0600
                Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-05 22:19 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-05 08:45 -0700
                Re: Big problem with OS X Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-05 16:28 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-05 08:44 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-05 15:28 -0600
                Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-05 08:53 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2014-01-05 13:13 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-05 15:25 -0600
                Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-05 13:39 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-05 09:40 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-05 15:33 -0600
                Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-05 15:17 -0600
                Re: Big problem with OS X bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2014-01-05 14:45 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-05 18:32 -0600
                Re: Big problem with OS X bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2014-01-05 17:10 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-05 19:48 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2014-01-05 17:09 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-01-05 22:06 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-06 04:49 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-05 21:57 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-01-16 13:02 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-16 14:22 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-17 08:38 -0600
                Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-17 08:26 -0700
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-17 08:19 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-17 09:22 -0700
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-17 10:26 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-17 12:24 -0700
                Re: Big problem with OS X Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-17 21:29 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-18 06:43 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-18 08:09 -0700
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-18 07:44 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-18 10:56 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-18 08:43 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-18 12:12 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-18 16:24 -0600
                Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-18 10:10 -0600
                Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-18 14:22 -0700
                Re: Big problem with OS X John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-01-24 22:56 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-18 16:23 -0600
                Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-18 10:09 -0600
                Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-19 02:58 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-18 10:40 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-18 06:37 -0700
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-18 07:42 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-19 04:15 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-01-24 22:55 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-24 16:23 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-24 23:37 -0700
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-24 22:52 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-18 10:42 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-18 08:27 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-01-18 09:01 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-18 15:50 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-01-18 13:08 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-18 15:10 -0600
                Re: Big problem with OS X Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-19 01:45 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-19 10:28 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-19 08:56 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-19 12:18 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-19 10:36 -0700
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-19 10:08 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-19 21:38 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-19 22:29 -0700
                Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-20 10:01 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-21 09:16 +1300
                Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-20 20:43 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-21 13:29 +1300
                Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-21 10:35 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-20 19:33 -0600
                Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-21 10:37 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-19 21:36 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2014-01-19 15:46 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-19 19:37 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X "William Wright" <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-22 09:11 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-23 08:49 +1300
                Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-25 01:37 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-26 09:41 +1300
                Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-28 11:43 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-29 09:37 +1300
                Re: Big problem with OS X "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2014-01-28 16:37 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-28 12:52 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-29 15:57 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-29 08:28 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-29 08:51 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-29 09:06 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:36 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-29 11:39 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:53 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-30 09:26 +1300
                Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-29 16:43 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-30 13:20 +1300
                Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-01 16:24 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-02 11:25 +1300
                Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-01 17:54 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-02 12:18 +1300
                Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-01 18:21 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-02 12:47 +1300
                Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-02 09:20 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-03 09:00 +1300
                Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-02 15:06 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-02-02 14:58 -0600
                Re: Big problem with OS X Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-30 13:09 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-28 20:40 -0700
                Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-29 08:27 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-29 16:45 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-29 21:59 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-29 17:22 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-29 22:54 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-29 18:49 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-30 13:10 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-30 14:58 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-30 13:21 +1300
                Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-30 10:02 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-30 23:04 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-01-30 23:14 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-31 02:20 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-31 01:17 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-31 13:22 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X The 29th Earl of Grimsby <earl-of-grimsby@jwright20.plus.com> - 2014-01-31 23:29 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-18 12:11 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-18 10:11 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-18 14:32 -0700
                Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-19 10:17 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-19 09:43 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-19 13:31 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-18 14:25 -0700
                Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-19 10:33 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-17 16:36 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-17 09:27 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-17 12:16 -0700
                Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-17 19:36 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-17 11:44 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-17 13:21 -0700
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-17 13:25 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-17 16:46 -0600
                Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-17 22:47 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X Joe Wolf Dee <joedid@email.com> - 2014-01-17 18:04 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-17 15:20 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-17 23:28 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-17 16:16 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-18 16:44 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-17 15:20 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Joe Wolf Dee <joedid@email.com> - 2014-01-17 18:29 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-17 16:15 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-18 16:27 -0600
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-18 15:00 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Joe Wolf Dee <joedid@email.com> - 2014-01-18 18:18 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-18 16:27 -0700
                Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-18 16:26 -0700
                Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-17 17:01 -0700
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-17 16:15 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-17 17:24 -0700
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-17 16:32 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-18 02:26 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-17 18:45 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-17 20:05 -0700
                Re: Big problem with OS X Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-18 03:39 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-17 20:27 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-19 01:38 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-18 20:29 -0700
                Re: Big problem with OS X Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-19 04:18 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-19 10:52 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-19 09:51 -0700
                Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-19 12:01 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-19 10:36 -0700
                Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-19 13:16 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-19 10:14 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-19 13:35 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-19 11:29 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-19 14:29 -0600
                Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-20 09:05 +1300
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-19 12:52 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-19 22:36 -0700
                Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-29 16:47 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-19 18:06 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-19 19:36 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-19 20:05 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-20 09:58 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-20 18:15 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-19 17:38 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-20 13:24 +1300
                Re: Big problem with OS X JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-19 20:09 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-20 16:36 +1300
                Re: Big problem with OS X JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-17 23:35 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-17 20:51 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-17 22:39 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-18 10:51 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-18 10:50 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-18 10:47 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-17 22:30 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-18 09:57 -0600
                Re: Big problem with OS X Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-01-18 08:51 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-18 12:18 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-18 14:36 -0700
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-18 14:32 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-18 16:24 -0700
                Re: Big problem with OS X Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-01-18 19:45 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-19 03:00 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-18 09:22 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-18 15:15 -0600
                Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-18 14:38 -0700
                Re: Big problem with OS X erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-18 16:20 -0600
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-18 15:14 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-19 04:16 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-18 14:56 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-18 14:35 -0700
                Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-18 17:43 -0600
                Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-17 15:27 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-18 10:00 -0600
                Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-19 14:34 -0600
                Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-06 04:32 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-01-06 12:26 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-06 16:22 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-07 13:09 +1300
                Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-04 22:10 -0600
                Re: Big problem with OS X gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-02 11:43 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X William Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-02 16:59 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X William Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-02 16:59 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X William Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-02 16:59 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X William Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-02 16:59 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-02 12:43 -0600
                Re: Big problem with OS X William Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-02 19:09 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-02 11:46 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-02 11:48 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X android <here@there.was> - 2014-01-02 20:48 +0100
                Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-02 12:11 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X android <here@there.was> - 2014-01-02 21:14 +0100
                Re: Big problem with OS X Imaginary <spamproof@nowhere.invalid> - 2014-01-02 19:46 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-02 12:41 -0600
        Re: Big problem with OS X William Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-02 09:24 +0000
          Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-02 13:26 +0000
          Re: Big problem with OS X David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2014-01-02 12:27 -0500
            Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-02 11:44 -0800
              Re: Big problem with OS X David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2014-01-03 12:09 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-03 10:42 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2014-01-04 14:17 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X William Wright <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-04 23:39 +0000
                Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-04 19:58 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2014-01-05 13:15 -0500
                Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-05 10:22 -0800
    Re: Big problem with OS X Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-02 13:14 +1300
      Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-02 11:46 -0800
  Re: Big problem with OS X Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-01 17:15 -0800
  Re: Big problem with OS X Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-01 20:36 -0700
    Re: Big problem with OS X Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2014-01-02 06:25 +0100
    Re: Big problem with OS X android <here@there.was> - 2014-01-02 10:09 +0100
  Re: Big problem with OS X Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-02 09:08 +0000
    Re: Big problem with OS X android <here@there.was> - 2014-01-02 10:12 +0100
  Re: Big problem with OS X Howard.not@home.com (Howard) - 2014-01-05 01:00 +0000
  Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-05 08:53 -0800
  Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-05 13:40 -0800
    Re: Big problem with OS X J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-05 18:17 -0500
      Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com <williamwright.orsk@gmail.com> - 2014-01-06 07:55 +0000
        Re: Big problem with OS X J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-06 04:33 -0500
          Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-06 03:15 -0800
            Re: Big problem with OS X J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-06 13:59 -0500
              Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-06 11:45 -0800
                Re: Big problem with OS X J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-06 15:33 -0500
          Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-06 03:20 -0800
  Re: Big problem with OS X android <here@there.was> - 2014-01-06 20:18 +0100
    Re: Big problem with OS X williamwright.orsk@gmail.com - 2014-01-06 12:12 -0800

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