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Re: Engineered constitutional crisis

From	snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe)
Newsgroups	uk.net.news.management, uk.net.news.moderation
Subject	Re: Engineered constitutional crisis
Date	2023-01-21 12:47 +0000
Organization	Sn!peCo World Wide Wading Birds
Message-ID	<1q4wr2v.1psj2iwo4mbedN%snipeco.2@gmail.com> (permalink)
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Bryan Morris <nospam@this.machine> wrote:

> In message <k31vngFr8vvU1@mid.individual.net>, The Todal 
> <the_todal@icloud.com> writes
> >On 21/01/2023 08:41, Jeff Gaines wrote:
> >> On 21/01/2023 in message <k311g1Fms1bU3@mid.individual.net> Mike 
> >>Fleming  wrote:
> >>
> >>>> As I asked "are you deemed worthy of being a moderator in
> >>>>  uk.legal.moderated"
> >>>
> >>> What have his very reasonable political views got to do with his 
> >>>ability to be a moderator in uk.legal.moderated?
> >>  That is a tautology. Moderators in ulm often make highly offensive
> >>remarks about our properly elected government which indicates their
> >>views are too extreme for them to have impartial views on other 
> >>matters.  The group seems to exist to pour socialist dogma down 
> >>people's throats  and whine about Brexit.
> >>
> >
> >Is it offensive (for example) to point out that Nadhim Zahawi was under
> >investigation by the HMRC while he was Chancellor, and that he 
> >aggressively threatened The Independent with legal action if they 
> >published this fact, and that he has now been obliged to pay HMRC a 
> >penalty of more than 1m and possibly as much as 5m?
> >
> >It may be disrespectful to the man but does he deserve respect? Is it
> >"socialist dogma" to print this story?
> >
> >The Independent article is here - I think you can register and login free.
> >
> >https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nadhim-zahawi-tax-legal-a
> >ction-b2266128.html
> >
> >quote
> >
> >In an extraordinary exchange before The Independent broke the story 
> >that he was being investigated last July, Mr Zahawi repeatedly 
> >threatened legal action:
> >
> >• When asked about the NCA inquiry, he responded: "One hundred per 
> >cent I will take legal action."
> >
> >• When questioned about the HMRC probe, he responded: "I will take 
> >legal action."
> >
> >• When pressed for an answer, he responded: "I have responded to 
> >you. I repeat I will take legal action."
> >
> >The Independent first reported that Inland Revenue experts were 
> >investigating Mr Zahawi's tax affairs on 6 July after a secret 
> >inquiry by the NCA in 2020.
> 
> Here we go again, you just don't get it do you
> 
> What the fuck has this to do with uk.legal.moderated and this group
> 
> Write what you want to The Gnurdian Mrs Rayner but not here
> 
  
Can it be that ulm has succumbed to the wider Usenet malaise of a 
thriving newsgroup being effectively killed by politically motivated
activists swamping the group with off-topic argy-bargy?  
  
I do hope not, I've seen too many once valuable groups go that way.  
One would hope that a moderated group might be able to defend 
itself against such destructive nonsense.
  
[frownie goes here]  
  
-- 
^Ï^.       Sn!pe   –   My pet rock Gordon just is.  

  No plan survives contact with the enemy.   
                   ~ Slava Ukraini ~

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Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Bryan Morris <nospam@this.machine> - 2023-01-19 17:05 +0000
  Re: Engineered constitutional crisis snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2023-01-19 18:25 +0000
    Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> - 2023-01-19 21:36 +0000
      Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Bryan Morris <nospam@this.machine> - 2023-01-19 21:53 +0000
        Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> - 2023-01-19 22:04 +0000
          Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2023-01-19 22:14 +0000
            Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Bryan Morris <nospam@this.machine> - 2023-01-20 01:31 +0000
              Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2023-01-20 01:52 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Bryan Morris <nospam@this.machine> - 2023-01-20 02:12 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2023-01-20 02:40 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Bryan Morris <nospam@this.machine> - 2023-01-20 19:57 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> - 2023-01-21 02:37 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2023-01-21 08:41 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> - 2023-01-21 09:22 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Bryan Morris <nospam@this.machine> - 2023-01-21 10:30 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis The Todal <the_todal@icloud.com> - 2023-01-21 11:00 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2023-01-21 11:15 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2023-01-21 14:02 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Bryan Morris <nospam@this.machine> - 2023-01-21 14:12 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2023-01-21 14:17 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Pamela <uklm@permabulator.33mail.com> - 2023-01-21 14:21 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Bryan Morris <nospam@this.machine> - 2023-01-21 16:13 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> - 2023-01-21 17:53 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Bryan Morris <nospam@this.machine> - 2023-01-21 18:36 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> - 2023-01-21 22:23 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Bryan Morris <nospam@this.machine> - 2023-01-21 22:50 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> - 2023-01-22 02:23 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Pamela <uklm@permabulator.33mail.com> - 2023-01-21 21:36 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis The Todal <the_todal@icloud.com> - 2023-01-22 15:44 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2023-01-21 14:26 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-21 15:47 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Bryan Morris <nospam@this.machine> - 2023-01-21 11:36 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> - 2023-01-21 15:43 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis The Todal <the_todal@icloud.com> - 2023-01-22 15:48 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Algernon Goss-Custard <Ben@nowhere.com> - 2023-01-21 15:30 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2023-01-21 15:51 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> - 2023-01-21 18:28 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Bryan Morris <nospam@this.machine> - 2023-01-21 10:22 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2023-01-21 10:43 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> - 2023-01-21 15:49 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-21 10:43 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2023-01-21 14:20 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Pamela <uklm@permabulator.33mail.com> - 2023-01-21 14:27 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Jeff Layman <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-21 20:01 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> - 2023-01-21 22:28 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Jeff Layman <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-22 09:22 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis The Todal <the_todal@icloud.com> - 2023-01-21 11:01 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2023-01-21 11:17 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> - 2023-01-21 18:30 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2023-01-21 21:08 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> - 2023-01-22 02:25 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2023-01-22 08:25 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> - 2023-01-23 01:20 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> - 2023-01-23 13:04 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> - 2023-01-23 13:17 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> - 2023-01-27 00:34 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk> - 2023-01-27 06:37 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> - 2023-01-27 08:55 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> - 2023-01-23 13:36 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> - 2023-01-27 00:35 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> - 2023-01-27 17:09 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> - 2023-01-29 19:25 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> - 2023-01-30 00:52 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> - 2023-01-30 01:21 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> - 2023-01-21 17:18 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis The Todal <the_todal@icloud.com> - 2023-01-21 11:13 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Bryan Morris <nospam@this.machine> - 2023-01-21 12:15 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2023-01-21 12:47 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Bryan Morris <nospam@this.machine> - 2023-01-21 14:11 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2023-01-21 14:18 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis The Todal <the_todal@icloud.com> - 2023-01-22 16:00 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis The Todal <the_todal@icloud.com> - 2023-01-22 15:59 +0000
                Re: Engineered constitutional crisis Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> - 2023-01-27 13:06 +0000

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