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Re: Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro

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On 2025-01-22 03:46, Char Jackson wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 13:52:45 -0600, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
> 
>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2025-01-21 16:19, VanguardLH wrote:
>>>> "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>>>> Like most people these days, I don't have a land line so having WFAS
>>>>> installed is bullshit. And I don't want it taking over my scanner's
>>>>> ability to scan, which I've read that somebody experienced as a problem.
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft decided to move hence hide where to uninstall/install the
>>>> Windows Fax & Scan service.  Used to be you went to appwiz.cpl, and
>>>> could select/deselect the fax service.  Some folks report to look under
>>>> Settings -> Apps -> Apps & Features to find an "Optional features" link.
>>>> Nope, not there anymore.  Now it's been moved to Settings -> System ->
>>>> Optional Features, and you'll find the fax service there (that's where I
>>>> find it for Win10 22H2).  That's where you reported finding it.  If
>>>> installed, clicking on it presents a Remove button.
>>>>
>>>> If you show the Start Menu, and enter "fax", it is listed with the
>>>> optional jump list.  One of the entries in the jump list is Uninstall.
>>>
>>> You also need capable hardware. An old fax machine will probably work
>>> badly with a modern phone that is VoIP behind your back, because VoIP
>>> waveform is not guaranteed to be in sync with the original(1), contrary
>>> to what happens with a public switched telephone network (PSTN). There
>>> is a relatively new fax protocol specific for VoIP lines, meaning you
>>> need modern machines with that capability on both ends.
>>>
>>> (1) On internet, packets can arrive out of time, even in reverse order.
>>
>> That's why I mention that I have digital phone service with my ISP.
>> That is *not* VOIP: no Internet involved, no packetization.  However, I
>> have before been able to fax over VOIP.
> 
> When I hear 'digital phone service' I think of SIP and RTP, as example
> protocols, but both of those are usually UDP and involve packetization
> and the Internet. I must be wrong. Can you steer me in the right
> direction?

Well, even traditional phone service, POTS, was digital in any advanced 
country. Only the copper line from exchange to the home was analog, 
unless you hired ISDN. But it used dedicated digital virtual channels 
per conversation, constant time delay end to end, no loses.

My ISP uses VoIP internally, sharing the pipe with the rest of the 
internet traffic generated by their clients (so, not saturated). How 
they interconnect with other ISPs, is anybody's guess, though.

Mobile phones are using GSM, as far I know, so PSTN at least to the 
exchanges.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-21 05:42 -0800
  Re: Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-21 09:19 -0600
    Re: Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-21 20:07 +0100
      Re: Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-21 13:52 -0600
        Re: Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-01-21 20:46 -0600
          Re: Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-22 00:29 -0600
            Re: Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-22 16:38 +0000
            Re: Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-01-22 23:46 -0600
          Re: Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-22 13:42 +0100
            Re: Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-01-22 23:49 -0600
              Re: Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-23 10:44 +0100
                Re: Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-01-23 14:21 -0600
    Re: Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-22 08:14 -0800
    Re: Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-01-22 17:51 +0000
  Re: Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-21 11:12 -0500
  Re: Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-21 16:25 +0000
    Re: Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-24 03:29 -0800

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