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Re: Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro

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VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:
> Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:
> 
> > VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
> > 
> >> That's why I mention that I have digital phone service with my ISP.
> >> That is *not* VOIP: no Internet involved, no packetization. 
> >> However, I have before been able to fax over VOIP.
> > 
> > When I hear 'digital phone service' I think of SIP and RTP, as example
> > protocols, but both of those are usually UDP and involve packetization
> > and the Internet. I must be wrong. Can you steer me in the right
> > direction?
> 
> Correction: Comcast does use IP, but only over their privately managed
> network which connects to a POS (Point of Service - where VOIP calls
> interface to a telco network).  Their voice traffic does not travel the
> public Internet.  2 channels in the cable modem are dedicated to digital
> voice, and those go to Comcast only, not elsewhere on the Internet.
> This differs from VOIP providers with their best-effort services
> delivering voice traffic across the Internet.  I consider VOIP to be a
> comm service over the Internet and subject to the irregular traffic
> delivery thereof.  Digital voice that uses a private network to connect
> to a telecomm network is not what users generally refer to as
> traditional VOIP.

  AFAIK, your definitions/interpretations are incorrect.

  VoIP is not only over the (public) Internet. As the name (Voice over
Internet Protocol) indicates, VoIP uses the Internet Protocol (IP). IP
is part of the Internet protocol suite and is not limited to the public
Internet, but can and is used on any Internet, also (semi) private ones.
So your use of Comcast *is* VoIP.

'Voice over IP'
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_over_IP>

'Internet Protocol'
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Protocol>

  And, as Carlos indicates, your use of "digital phone service"/"digital
voice" is ambiguous, because it's not limited to your narrow definition.

[Networking 'lectures' deleted.]

  Are you aware to whom you are responding?

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Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-21 05:42 -0800
  Re: Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-21 09:19 -0600
    Re: Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-21 20:07 +0100
      Re: Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-21 13:52 -0600
        Re: Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-01-21 20:46 -0600
          Re: Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-22 00:29 -0600
            Re: Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-22 16:38 +0000
            Re: Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-01-22 23:46 -0600
          Re: Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-22 13:42 +0100
            Re: Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-01-22 23:49 -0600
              Re: Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-23 10:44 +0100
                Re: Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-01-23 14:21 -0600
    Re: Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-22 08:14 -0800
    Re: Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-01-22 17:51 +0000
  Re: Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-21 11:12 -0500
  Re: Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-21 16:25 +0000
    Re: Unable to remove "Windows Fax and Scan" from Windows 10 Pro "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-24 03:29 -0800

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