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John G Harris wrote:

> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> John G Harris wrote:
>>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>>> Instead of the `==' operator, the `===' operator may be used as well,
>>>>> but it is neither supposed to add efficiency nor would it add
>>>>> expressive power (both arguments are of the same type), while it
>>>>> certainly reduces the backwards-compatibility of the entire code.
>>>> _Operands_, not arguments.  We are not talking about a function, but
>>>> about an operator.
>>> Operators are also functions. How else would + be defined?
>> You are confusing functions with algorithms.  The subject of discussion
>> here is the syntax of the programming language, not the implementation of
>> the syntax.
> 
> 1. The syntax specification calls new a keyword and + a punctuator

No, the _lexical grammar_ of ECMAScript (Ed. 5.1) says that `new' is a 
keyword (section 7.6.1.1), and that `+' is a punctuator (section 7.7).

The _syntactic grammar_ calls `new' and `+' operators, as in "11.2.2 The 
`new' Operator" and "11.6.1 The Addition operator (+)".

"Productions of the lexical and RegExp grammars are distinguished by having 
two colons “::” as separating punctuation. […]" (section 5.1.2, last 
paragraph).

> Their operands/arguments are called expressions.

Correct for "operands", in the syntactic grammar.  Operators do not have 
arguments; functions (and by extension to OOP, methods) have them.

> So we aren't discussing the syntax.

Yes, we are.  `+' is an operator in the syntax of ECMAScript; it has 
operands.

> 2. In a language where you write add(2,3) what would you call 2 and 3 :
> operands or arguments?

I get it now: you are trolling again.

> All that's special about operators is that they are often invoked using
> a non-general format, and they tend to be built into the language.

Wrong.


PointedEars
-- 
var bugRiddenCrashPronePieceOfJunk = (
    navigator.userAgent.indexOf('MSIE 5') != -1
    && navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Mac') != -1
)  // Plone, register_function.js:16

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Comparing arraies Archos <raul.san@sent.com> - 2012-01-26 07:23 -0800
  Re: Comparing arraies Martin Honnen <mahotrash@yahoo.de> - 2012-01-26 18:29 +0100
    Re: Comparing arraies Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-01-26 19:50 +0100
      Re: Comparing arraies Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-01-26 19:54 +0100
        Re: Comparing arraies John G Harris <john@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2012-01-27 16:49 +0000
          Re: Comparing arraies Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-01-27 18:41 +0100
            Re: Comparing arraies John G Harris <john@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2012-01-28 11:28 +0000
              Re: Comparing arraies Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-01-28 21:17 +0100
                Re: Comparing arraies John G Harris <john@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2012-01-29 14:55 +0000
                Re: Comparing arraies Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-01-29 17:13 +0100
                Re: Comparing arraies John G Harris <john@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2012-01-30 15:27 +0000
                Re: Comparing arraies Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-01-30 19:03 +0100
                Re: Comparing arraies John G Harris <john@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2012-01-31 15:07 +0000
                Re: Comparing arraies Dr J R Stockton <reply1205@merlyn.demon.co.uk> - 2012-01-31 18:51 +0000
                Re: Comparing arraies "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2012-01-30 12:01 -0800
                Re: Comparing arraies John G Harris <john@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2012-01-31 11:06 +0000
                Re: Comparing arraies "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2012-01-31 06:08 -0800
                Re: Comparing arraies John G Harris <john@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2012-01-31 16:08 +0000
                Re: Comparing arraies "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2012-01-31 18:32 -0800
                Re: Comparing arraies John G Harris <john@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2012-02-01 17:02 +0000
                Re: Comparing arraies "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2012-02-01 10:07 -0800
                Re: Comparing arraies John G Harris <john@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2012-02-02 15:10 +0000
                Re: Comparing arraies "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2012-02-02 11:16 -0800
                Re: Comparing arraies John G Harris <john@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2012-02-07 15:14 +0000
                Re: Comparing arraies Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-02-01 21:45 +0100
                Re: Comparing arraies "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2012-02-01 13:07 -0800
                Re: Comparing arraies Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-02-01 23:44 +0100
                Re: Comparing arraies "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2012-02-01 18:22 -0800
                Re: Comparing arraies Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-02-02 23:09 +0100
                Re: Comparing arraies Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-02-03 01:47 +0100
                Re: Comparing arraies John G Harris <john@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2012-02-04 10:34 +0000
                Re: Comparing arraies Dr J R Stockton <reply1205@merlyn.demon.co.uk> - 2012-02-05 16:47 +0000
                Re: Comparing arraies John G Harris <john@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2012-02-06 15:21 +0000
                Re: Comparing arraies "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2012-02-04 23:37 -0800
    Re: Comparing arraies Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2012-01-26 23:08 +0000
      Re: Comparing arraies Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2012-01-27 01:42 +0000
        Re: Comparing arraies Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2012-01-27 11:41 +0100
      Re: Comparing arraies Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-01-26 16:24 -0800
        Re: Comparing arraies "Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net> - 2012-01-27 08:50 +0000
      Re: Comparing arraies Dr J R Stockton <reply1204@merlyn.demon.co.uk> - 2012-01-27 21:07 +0000
        Re: Comparing arraies "Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net> - 2012-01-28 13:45 +0000
  Re: Comparing arraies "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2012-01-26 16:21 -0800
    Re: Comparing arraies Martin Honnen <mahotrash@yahoo.de> - 2012-01-27 16:00 +0100

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