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Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones?

From	nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups	misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android
Subject	Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones?
Date	2018-08-19 22:51 -0400
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID	<190820182251235635%nospam@nospam.invalid> (permalink)
References	(8 earlier) <plar6o$khj$1@dont-email.me> <190820180626139339%nospam@nospam.invalid> <pld7mq$tiq$9@news.mixmin.net> <190820182218075857%nospam@nospam.invalid> <pld971$1gg$3@news.mixmin.net>

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In article <pld971$1gg$3@news.mixmin.net>, Arlen Holder
<arlenholder@nospam.net> wrote:

> Here's a list by sms, for example, which nospam ignores completely

i didn't ignore it at all. i replied to it, as it's mostly wrong.

>   The actual reasons for the removal of the headphone jack 
>   made perfect sense:

the actual reasons are that it takes up space that can be better used
for more important things, it makes it easier to make it water
resistant and it's redundant because there is a digital headphone jack
already there, which is far more capable and more reliable.

>  1. Reduce manufacturing cost of the phone.

by a few cents, if that much. it's certainly *not* a motivation to
eliminate it.

>  2. Make waterproofing easier.

yes, as noted above.

>  3. Encourage sales of Airpods.

nonsense. apple includes headphones *and* an adapter in the box so
nothing else needs to be bought.

iphones also have standard bluetooth, so any third party bluetooth
headset would work.

>  4. The headphone jack generates no licensing fees, the Lightning jack
> does.

nonsense to that too. they include an adapter and any bluetooth headset
works fine. 

>  5. Follows their philosophy of minimizing I/O ports, which is also seen 
> on their computers.

also wrong.

they *added* a smart connector to the ipad, for example.

keep in mind that numerous android phones, including the google pixel
and various motorola, htc and several others do not have an analog
headphone jack, along with the very first android phone from 10 years
ago.

specifically, google does *not* include headphones with the google
pixel, so if anyone is encouraging sales of bluetooth headsets, it
would be google and their pixel buds, their version of the airpods.

tl;dr the list is bullshit.

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Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-17 15:24 +0000
Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-17 10:15 -0700
Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-17 13:30 -0400
Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-17 11:01 -0700
Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-17 14:42 -0400
Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-17 13:26 -0700
Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-17 17:31 -0400
Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-17 23:13 +0000
Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-17 21:16 -0700
Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-18 00:36 -0400
Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-17 22:19 -0700
Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-08-18 19:00 +1200
Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-18 10:12 +0000
Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-18 08:13 -0700
Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-18 11:58 -0400
Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-18 10:09 -0700
Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-18 13:41 -0400
Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-18 22:00 +0000
Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-18 15:22 -0700
Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-18 21:20 -0700
Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 05:14 +0000
Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-19 06:26 -0400
Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 02:06 +0000
Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-19 22:18 -0400
Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 02:32 +0000
Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-19 22:51 -0400
Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 04:05 +0000
Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 01:01 -0400
Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 05:34 +0000
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Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-23 16:28 +0000
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Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 00:16 +0000
Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-18 20:21 -0700
Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 05:14 +0000
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Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 08:31 +0000
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Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 10:41 -0400
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