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Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities?

From	nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups	misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android
Subject	Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities?
Date	2016-07-19 13:10 -0400
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID	<190720161310316401%nospam@nospam.invalid> (permalink)
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In article <nmlkq7$cg6$1@dont-email.me>, Poutnik
<poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> wrote:

> > if ios can do things that android cannot, then android is *not* a
> > superset which means it doesn't do more than ios. it means there's an
> > intersection in what they do.
> 
> It depends if you both agree on what "does more" means.

'does more' is not a matter of opinion. it can be measured.

> A being a superset of B is just a special case of
> Number of set A members  > number of set B members.
> 
> One of acceptable interpretation of "does more"
> is comparing of number of set members
> that are not members of the set intersection.

incorrect interpretations are never acceptable.

if there is just *one* item in set b that is not in set a, then set a
does not 'do more', but rather 'each set does some things that the
other cannot', i.e., an intersection.

for someone who wants that one particular item, it doesn't matter how
big the first set is. they need that one item and won't be able to do
what they need to do with a device belonging to the first set.

there's also way more than one item in set b. it also doesn't matter
because nobody uses every single feature so counting them is completely
pointless. however, every feature is used by *someone*.

what matters is whether a user can do the tasks they want to do in a
productive manner. for some people that's android and for others it's
ios.

like everything, there are advantages and disadvantages to each system.

claiming that android can do everything that ios can is flat out false.

this is particularly true with his crazy list, almost all of which is
totally wrong. *he* may not know how to do certain things on ios, but
that doesn't mean they're impossible. what's worse is that several
people have explained how and he still claims it's not possible.

Thread

Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-14 23:21 +0000
  Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-15 05:19 +0000
    Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 01:35 -0400
      Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 19:57 +0000
    Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? ElfinArc6 <eflinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 14:18 -0500
      Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 19:58 +0000
    Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 19:57 +0000
      Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? ElfinArc6 <eflinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 15:01 -0500
        Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-16 03:46 +0000
          Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-16 04:28 +0000
            Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-16 05:11 +0000
              Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2016-07-16 15:31 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-19 00:17 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-18 21:21 -0400
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-19 02:39 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-18 22:49 -0400
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 02:18 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-18 22:30 -0400
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-19 04:42 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-19 00:45 -0400
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-19 05:07 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-19 01:39 -0400
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 18:34 +0200
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-19 13:10 -0400
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 19:26 +0200
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-19 13:34 -0400
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-19 19:32 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-19 23:00 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-07-20 09:30 +0200
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-20 17:01 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-20 18:33 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-07-21 11:12 +0200
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-07-21 11:12 +0200
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-21 18:27 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-21 18:41 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-21 21:43 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-23 01:44 +0000
  Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-07-16 12:17 -0600
  Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-17 21:18 +0000
  Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-25 06:49 +0000

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