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Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities?

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On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 02:18:14 +0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote:

> It looks to me like you have created groups.  I can do that with iOS
> too.

This isn't a technical thread, but to flesh out your comments, both Android
& iOS can do dumb "folders". However, Android can do three levels (sort of,
depending on the app) while iOS can only do two levels of hierarchy.

In addition, Android can hide apps in a fantastically functional hidden
location (called an App Drawer app), while iOS users can only hide apps in
another essentially dumb barely-functional folder.

There are tons of features that this allows, e.g., Android users can *show
the actual package name* of app icons, whereas iOS can't possibly to that. 

> Let me just say I am not an Apple enthusiast. 

I love both platforms.
They're just very different.
And, the *people* who buy the products are polar opposites in personality.

> I have had Windows computers forever and refuse to have a Mac. 

I've used Windows, Mac, and Linux myself.
Three times I've used Apple computers, from the early days in the 80s, to
the mid nineties, to about a year ago.

> In my work area there are
> many Mac users and we have bantering about Windows vs. Mac all the time
> -- much like Ford vs. Chevy people.  My main contention regarding
> Windows vs. Mac is that Macs are good for email, surfing, graphics, and
> Starbucks.  Windows is good for people who actually have to work for a
> living and require specialized COTS software.  Of course that's just a
> generalization, but the point is there are far more software
> applications available for Windows than there is for Mac or Unix.

All the desktop computers do essentially the same things.
 
> Android vs. iOS is essentially a tie when comparing apps. 

Not really. But close enough to not bother to quibble.

> The only thing Android does better is allow customization. 

Android not only allows users to define the look and feel, but the
*utilities* on Android far outweigh those on iOS.

> iOS could do this
> too, but they made a decision to restrict system level access and it
> has served them well in the corporate world.  They essentially killed
> the popular Blackberry and took over that market.  I think the control
> over app permissions and handling of notifications are superior too.
> Android has made strides in those areas but not enough in my opinion.

Apple has the educational world in their grasp.
I don't know about the corporate world.
It seems pretty 50:50 to me.

> of course there is the issue of OS and hardware integration.
> Apple phones never meet the same specs as Android devices, yet they
> consistently post superior or identical technical scores by independent
> labs.  An iPhone just "feels" snappier compared to my wife's Samsung
> Galaxy S5 which is considered the flagship of Android devices.

All the iPhones are high-end devices.

> Frankly these are all minor differences and it really comes down to a
> matter of taste.  One man prefers the luxury, smoothness, refinement,
> quiet of a Lexus while another man prefers the agility, handling,
> responsiveness, style of a BMW.  They are both excellent vehicles but
> they do different things better because the designers wanted to
> emphasize different aspects.

Yup. Android does more things than does iOS, but iOS does some things that
Android doesn't do too.

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Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-14 23:21 +0000
  Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-15 05:19 +0000
    Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 01:35 -0400
      Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 19:57 +0000
    Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? ElfinArc6 <eflinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 14:18 -0500
      Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 19:58 +0000
    Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 19:57 +0000
      Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? ElfinArc6 <eflinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 15:01 -0500
        Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-16 03:46 +0000
          Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-16 04:28 +0000
            Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-16 05:11 +0000
              Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2016-07-16 15:31 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-19 00:17 +0000
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                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 02:18 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-18 22:30 -0400
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                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-07-20 09:30 +0200
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-20 17:01 +0000
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                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-07-21 11:12 +0200
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