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Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones?

From Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Subject Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones?
Date 2018-08-17 15:24 +0000
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On 17 Aug 2018 06:12:12 GMT, sms wrote:

> It is comparing the features of Android devices with those of iOS 
> devices. Since the two ecosystems tend to copy features from each other, 
> in both directions, for better (styluses, larger screens, IP67/68 etc.) 
> or worse (loss of headphone jacks, loss of MicroSD card slots, "the 
> notch") it is certainly relevant.

I have two points of view, one for each of those two topics, where, as sms
knows, I have had (& still have) _both_ iOS and Android devices for years.

1. The stylus (is it really useful?)
2. Copying features (it's not what you think)

STYLUS:
I have an LG Stylo 3 Plus Android phone, which comes with a stylus, but
which I haven't found a use for yet that isn't anything I want to do.

If there is a good use, let me know - as I'm not good with one-finger
keyboards either - but the stylus doesn't seem to be any faster or more
accurate in writing-to-letter tests of mine. 

I don't "draw" on my phone - so I'm not sure what good the stylus is for me
other than for "text" but I also suck at leaving myself memos so if there
was a great way to leave myself timed to-do notes, that would be great if
the stylus works for that in as few clicks as possible (preferably a singe
action for such things is desired).

COPYING:
While the highly marketed "stylish" Android phones *do* copy what Apple
leads with (e.g., no battery replacement, no headphone jack, no sdcard
slot, super high price, etc.), I think the "basic" Android phones do not
always copy what the highly marketed phones do.

For example, removable batteries is a bonus to the consumer, as is an sd
slot, as is a headphone jack - where the main reason marketing loves
removing those features, IMHO, is that they can LOCK the consumer into
their proprietary solutions. 

Apple is the *best* in the world in *locking the consumer* into proprietary
features, where I think it's sad that the highly marketed Android phones
copy suite.

Still - the less marketed phones (e.g., the $130 8-core LG Stylo 3 Plus,
which costs five times less than the far-less-functional but let's call it
essentially hardware equivalent 3-core iPhone 7 Plus - has *all* those
hardware features - and more... 
a. Removable battery
b. 2TB sd card slot
c. headphone jack

My main point is that not all the Android devices are copying the highly
marketed ways of Android.

A side note is that if the consumer refuses to purchase these expensive
limited restricted Android iPhone copies, the consumer will win in the end. 

It's like refusing to purchase highly marketed drugs from a drug dealer.

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Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-16 17:58 -0700
  Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2018-08-16 20:19 -0500
    Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arthur Conan Doyle <lab@rules.com.invalid> - 2018-08-17 09:07 +0100
    Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-17 06:12 -0700
      Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-17 15:24 +0000
        Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-17 10:15 -0700
          Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-17 13:30 -0400
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                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-17 17:31 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-17 23:13 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-17 21:16 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-18 00:36 -0400
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                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-08-18 19:00 +1200
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-18 10:12 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-18 08:13 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-18 11:58 -0400
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                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-18 22:00 +0000
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                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-18 21:20 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 05:14 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-19 06:26 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 02:06 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-19 22:18 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 02:32 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-19 22:51 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 04:05 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 01:01 -0400
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 05:34 +0000
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-08-19 10:01 +1200
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> - 2018-08-18 15:35 -0700
                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 00:16 +0000
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                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-19 05:14 +0000
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                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 02:06 +0000
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                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-08-20 02:06 +0000
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              Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-19 15:55 -0700
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                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-20 06:26 -0700
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                Re: Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-08-20 08:37 -0700
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