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Re: Random noise generation

From Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
Newsgroups sci.electronics.design, sci.energy.atomic
Subject Re: Random noise generation
Date 2026-09-27 20:47 +1000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <119as87$18d97$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References (8 earlier) <1198258$beb2$1@dont-email.me> <4cqfblpp96pbh7vtnvoilardlu2e75ccqm@4ax.com> <1199182$mq4l$1@dont-email.me> <vt3gblp7i7tpe3iprcg9hf7s1prgserc74@4ax.com> <119ajt8$15sdk$1@dont-email.me>

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On 27/09/2026 6:25 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
>>> On Sat, 26 Sep 2026 18:00:33 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>> You can NEVER get more energy out of a spring than you put in compressing it!
>>
>> In real life, sure you can. Like a hydrogen bomb. Or a diesel engine.
> 
> No way!

Springs don't release more power than you put into compressing them.

Hydrogen fusion is compressing four hydrogen nuclei (H-1) hard enough 
that they transform into He-4, which does releases more power than you 
put into comnpressing the hydrogen hard enough to make it happen.

Albert Einstein did formalise the mass-energy equivalance in e=m.c^2
Where e is energy m is mass and c is the speed of light in a vacuum. 
Chose your own system of units to keep the dimensions right.

Jan Panteltje is too dim to follow Einstein's reasoning and finds it 
easier to think that he was wrong.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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proposal Lane W <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-09-20 14:27 -0600
  Re: proposal john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-20 13:49 -0700
    Re: proposal Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk> - 2026-09-20 23:20 +0200
      Re: proposal john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-20 14:35 -0700
        Re: proposal Lasse Langwadt <llc@fonz.dk> - 2026-09-21 20:11 +0200
    Re: proposal Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> - 2026-09-20 22:46 +0100
  Re: proposal Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2026-09-20 14:56 -0700
    Re: proposal Lane W <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-09-20 17:08 -0600
      Re: proposal john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-20 19:11 -0700
      Re: proposal Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2026-09-20 19:24 -0700
        Re: proposal Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2026-09-20 19:36 -0700
          Re: proposal Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net> - 2026-09-21 03:27 +0000
            Re: proposal Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2026-09-20 21:01 -0700
            Re: proposal Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-21 06:36 +0000
              Re: proposal Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net> - 2026-09-21 07:02 +0000
                Re: proposal Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-21 07:34 +0000
              Re: proposal Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2026-09-21 01:26 -0700
            Re: proposal Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-21 17:06 +1000
  Re: proposal Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2026-09-20 14:57 -0700
  Re: proposal sobriquet <dohduhdah@yahoo.com> - 2026-09-21 03:10 +0200
    Re: proposal Lane W <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-09-20 20:38 -0600
    Re: proposal Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-21 06:45 +0000
    Re: proposal john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-21 09:26 -0700
      Re: proposal Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-22 00:36 +0800
        Re: proposal john larkin <jl@htigct.com> - 2026-09-21 10:20 -0700
          Re: proposal Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-22 16:30 +1000
            Re: proposal Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-22 14:45 +0800
              Re: proposal Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-22 17:17 +1000
            Re: proposal john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-22 04:01 -0700
              Re: proposal Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-23 00:21 +1000
      Re: proposal sobriquet <dohduhdah@yahoo.com> - 2026-09-22 02:32 +0200
        Re: proposal john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-21 19:03 -0700
          Re: proposal sobriquet <dohduhdah@yahoo.com> - 2026-09-22 04:09 +0200
            Re: proposal john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-21 20:23 -0700
              Re: proposal sobriquet <dohduhdah@yahoo.com> - 2026-09-22 06:10 +0200
                Re: proposal Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-22 16:57 +1000
                Re: proposal john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-22 04:15 -0700
                Re: proposal Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-23 00:38 +1000
                Re: proposal john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-22 08:08 -0700
                Re: proposal Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-23 01:49 +1000
                Re: proposal Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-23 00:04 +0800
                Re: proposal Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-24 18:27 +1000
                Re: proposal Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-24 17:07 +0800
                Re: proposal Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-25 01:41 +1000
                Re: proposal Lane W <cactus_DAC@yahoo.com> - 2026-09-24 10:02 -0600
                Re: proposal Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-25 04:00 +0800
                Re: proposal Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-25 16:37 +1000
                Re: proposal john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-22 04:04 -0700
                Re: proposal sobriquet <dohduhdah@yahoo.com> - 2026-09-22 16:38 +0200
                Re: proposal john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-22 08:22 -0700
                Re: proposal Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-23 00:08 +0800
                Re: proposal john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-22 09:36 -0700
                Random noise generation (was: Re: proposal) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-23 00:50 +0800
                Re: Random noise generation (was: Re: proposal) john larkin <jl@htigct.com> - 2026-09-22 10:20 -0700
                Re: Random noise generation Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-23 03:51 +1000
                Re: Random noise generation Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-23 01:55 +0800
                Re: Random noise generation john larkin <jl@htigct.com> - 2026-09-22 17:35 -0700
                Re: Random noise generation Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2026-09-23 15:14 +0000
                Re: Random noise generation john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-23 09:12 -0700
                Re: Random noise generation Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-24 17:39 +0800
                Re: Random noise generation Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-25 02:05 +1000
                Re: Random noise generation Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-25 01:39 +0800
                Re: Random noise generation john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-24 18:26 -0700
                Re: Random noise generation Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-25 16:46 +1000
                Re: Random noise generation john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-25 07:51 -0700
                Re: Random noise generation Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-26 06:49 +0800
                Re: Random noise generation john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-26 07:25 -0700
                Re: Random noise generation ehsjr <ehsjr@verizon.net> - 2026-09-26 12:57 -0400
                Re: Random noise generation Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-27 06:29 +0800
                Re: Random noise generation john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-26 16:17 -0700
                Re: Random noise generation Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-27 08:25 +0000
                Re: Random noise generation john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-27 03:10 -0700
                Re: Random noise generation Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-26 15:48 +1000
                Re: Random noise generation john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-26 08:34 -0700
                Re: Random noise generation Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-27 15:45 +1000
                Re: Random noise generation Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-26 15:48 +1000
                Re: Random noise generation liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-09-25 09:22 +0100
                Re: Random noise generation john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-25 07:56 -0700
                Re: Random noise generation Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2026-09-25 15:36 +0000
                Re: Random noise generation John R Walliker <jrwalliker@gmail.com> - 2026-09-25 16:59 +0100
                Re: Random noise generation john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-26 08:42 -0700
                Re: Random noise generation Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-25 17:19 +0000
                Re: Random noise generation Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-26 04:08 +0800
                Re: Random noise generation Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-26 09:08 +0000
                Re: Random noise generation Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-26 09:09 +0000
                Re: Random noise generation Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-26 21:22 +1000
                Re: Random noise generation john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-26 08:57 -0700
                Re: Random noise generation john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-26 11:37 -0700
                Re: Random noise generation Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-27 08:25 +0000
                Re: Random noise generation Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-27 20:47 +1000
                Re: Random noise generation Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-26 18:00 +0000
                Re: Random noise generation john larkin <jl@htigct.com> - 2026-09-25 17:09 -0700
                Re: Random noise generation liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-09-25 22:12 +0100
                Re: Random noise generation Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-09-26 10:14 +0200
                Re: Random noise generation liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-09-26 14:37 +0100
                Re: Random noise generation Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-09-26 23:09 +0200
                Re: Random noise generation liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-09-27 09:15 +0100
                Re: Random noise generation john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-26 09:01 -0700
                Re: Random noise generation liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) - 2026-09-26 19:45 +0100
                Re: Random noise generation Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2026-10-03 13:34 +0200
                Re: Random noise generation Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-10-03 16:03 +0200
                Re: Random noise generation john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-10-03 08:42 -0700
                Re: Random noise generation brian <nospam@b-howie.co.uk> - 2026-10-06 05:39 +0100
                Re: proposal Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-23 01:01 +1000
    Re: proposal someone <2a59d59e3809f827ce709d3815e3950eef4a6a93af5557a93a7fdfba71460843@example.com> - 2026-09-21 21:00 +0000
      Re: proposal Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-22 17:10 +1000
        Re: proposal john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> - 2026-09-22 04:21 -0700
          Re: proposal Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> - 2026-09-23 02:17 +1000

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