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Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance"

From vallor <vallor@vallor.earth>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-11, comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance"
Date 2026-07-30 22:37 +0000
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At Thu, 30 Jul 2026 18:34:16 -0400, "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 7/30/2026 6:22 PM, vallor wrote:
> > At Thu, 30 Jul 2026 17:16:36 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 7/30/2026 3:52 PM, Joel W. Crump wrote:
> >>> On 7/30/2026 3:42 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Linux is slowly growing, about time and good on 'them'.
> >>>
> >>> Linux is growing, and even Mac is doing things, but Windows will always be the default platform.
> >>
> >> Linux has no self-promotion capability to speak of.
> > 
> > What Linux needs is some kind of "Geek Squad" service provider
> > for people needing guru help.
> > 
> > Just like MS Windows users have "Geek Squad".  You have (at least)
> > two levels of user:  "user" and "guru".  I know a grandmother who
> > uses Linux, and uses Pan to post to Usenet.  She's a "user".  If she
> > needs help, she gets ahold of her daughter, a "guru".
> > 
> > Most people are like that.  For MS Windows, if they don't have
> > a family member or friend to consult, there's always the local
> > computer shop, "Geek Squad", etc.
> > 
> > There are these "Linux Cafes" popping up everywhere.
> > A lot of the old LUGs are still around.  Very grass roots.
> > Maybe there's a market opportunity for a "Linux Squad"..."I see
> > a great need"...
> 
> 
> Correct, Linux can be utilized by non-tech people who have a helper.

Right, but the problem is that there are more people familiar with
Windows systems than Linux systems, so you're family member/departmental
guru/computer shop is more likely to be Windows-savvy than
Linux-savvy.

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"Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 14:15 -0400
  Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 21:57 +0000
    Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 18:05 -0400
      Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-07-30 02:31 +0000
        Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 06:16 -0400
      Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 05:03 +0000
        Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-30 02:55 -0400
          Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 16:49 +0000
            Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-30 21:59 +0000
              Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 08:37 +0000
        Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 06:18 -0400
          Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 16:50 +0000
        Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-30 12:38 +0100
          Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 16:51 +0000
            Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-30 14:18 -0400
              Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-30 22:50 +0000
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-30 22:10 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-07-31 16:37 +0000
              Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 08:48 +0000
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-31 15:50 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-08-01 02:20 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-01 04:53 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-08-02 03:05 -0400
      Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2026-07-30 08:37 -0400
        Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 08:44 -0400
        Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-30 14:42 +0100
    Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-07-30 03:01 +0000
      Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 05:02 +0000
      Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-30 01:31 -0400
        Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-07-30 20:32 -0400
      Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 09:04 -0400
      Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-30 19:42 +0000
        Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 15:52 -0400
          Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-30 17:16 -0400
            Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 17:46 -0400
            Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-30 17:02 -0500
              Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 19:03 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-30 19:39 -0400
              Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-30 19:33 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-31 07:21 -0500
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-07-31 11:16 -0400
              Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-31 12:51 +0000
              Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-07-31 16:43 +0000
            Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-07-30 22:22 +0000
              Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 18:34 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-07-30 22:37 +0000
      Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-07-30 20:15 -0400
      Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-02 14:43 +0200
        Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-02 13:18 -0400
          Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-02 23:17 +0200
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  Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-05 12:15 -0700
    Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 15:23 -0400
      Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-05 12:26 -0700
        Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 15:40 -0400
          Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-05 12:59 -0700
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                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-06 14:49 -0700
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                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-05 14:48 -0700
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 17:56 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-05 18:05 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 18:08 -0400
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                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-06 14:49 -0700
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-06 18:04 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-06 15:36 -0700
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-06 18:45 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-07 01:12 -0400
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                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-07 11:34 -0400
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                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-10 10:35 +0000
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                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-11 10:30 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-11 10:21 -0400
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                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-11 15:03 -0400
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