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| From | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.math, sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Java picky concerning JIT-ing [Luckier with C++/C or FORTRAN compilers?] (Re: The Koan of pi-WAM queues [FORTRAN-S]) |
| Date | 2026-07-29 12:55 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <114cm6u$jm45$2@solani.org> (permalink) |
| References | <113r40o$8g50$1@solani.org> <1140bc7$bdpp$1@solani.org> <1140ciu$bue1$1@solani.org> <1145hhc$fdqk$1@solani.org> |
Cross-posted to 2 groups.
Hi,
Small correction, the code below should use <=
in the for loops. But Java was extrem picky
concerning JIT-ing of the for loops, refuse
to JIT a <= based loop, so I rewrote a
corrected solution that matches:
7-11 cubic Solution by Pritchard & Gries
https://www.cs.cornell.edu/gries/TechReports/83-574.pdf
Into the following code:
public static void run() {
for (int A = 1; A < 193; A++) {
int Y = (771-A)/3+1;
for (int B = A; B < Y; B++) {
int Z = (771-A-B)/2+1;
for (int C = B; C < Z; C++) {
int D = 711-A-B-C;
if (A *B*C == 711000000/D && 711000000 % D == 0)
/* System.out.println("A="+A+", B="+B+",
C="+C+", D="+D) */ ;
}
}
}
}
Bye
Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> You see it all boils down to find your inner peace
> by an immaculate inception of some queue datatype.
>
> KOAN/Fortran-S was an early 1990s research programming
> system for distributed-memory multiprocessors . Developed
> at ENS Lyon in the early 1990s . Often listed alongside
> other historical parallel programming efforts.
>
> The Message Passing: The research explicitly
> compared the SVM approach against message passing
> on the same hardware . The finding was that SVM
> could achieve good performance without the low-level
>
> complexity of managing explicit messages, though
> the best results often came from a hybrid approach (sic!)
> Here is an interesting baseline, from Java,
> a class ElevenSingle that only does:
>
> public static void run() {
> for (int A = 1; A < 192; A++) {
> int Y = (771-A)/3;
> for (int B = A; B < Y; B++) {
> int Z = (771-A-B)/2;
> for (int C = B; C < Z; C++) {
> int D = 711-A-B-C;
> if (A*B*C == 711000000/D &&
> 711000000 % D == 0)
> System.out.println("A="+A+", B="+B+", C="+C+", D="+D);
> }
> }
> }
> }
>
> And then compare it to ElevenMulti, doing some
> Work Balancing Scheduler Tetris Game with 8 cores:
>
> ElevenSingle
> A=120, B=125, C=150, D=316
> 6.628 ms
>
> ElevenMulti
> A=120, B=125, C=150, D=316
> 1.941 ms
>
> Not great, not terrible!
>
> Bye
>
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Its not tested on some Single Instruction/
>> Multiple Data (SIMD) GPU. It was only tested on
>> AI Laptops with Multiple instruction, Multiple
>>
>> Data (GPU) architecture for the scalar registers
>> per logical thread. As introduced by NVIDIA Volta
>> in around 2017:
>>
>> > the first product was not announced until May 2017
>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volta_%28microarchitecture%29
>>
>> Although I wrote the code of Hack VM with SIMD
>> in mind, I never tested it on a pure SIMD GPU,
>> and I never ported boot.mjs or boot2.mjs to
>>
>> WebGL2 / GLSL. I uploaded WebGPU / WGSL. Among the
>> tester I had were these AI Laptops, that could all
>> run WebGPU / WGSL in a browser:
>>
>> > Intel(R) Core(TM) Ultra 7 258V
>> > AMD Ryzen AI 7 350 w/ Radeon 860M
>> > Apple A18 Pro, Darwin Kernel Version 25.5.0
>> > Snapdragon(R) X - X126100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) CPU
>>
>> Some AI Laptops had WebGPU / WGSL still behind
>> a browser flag, since its relatively new on ARM.
>> Also the above AI Laptops have all a iGPU and
>>
>> not a separate GPU card.
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:> Hi,
>> >
>> > > Show an outline of what you need you compute shader to do?
>> >
>> > Its all on GitHub , for the 100-th time .
>> > Just RTFM , i.e. study the repo and the
>> > medim article. Just follow this link:
>> >
>> > 11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
>> > https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget
>> >
>> > Whats wrong with you guys, did the AI boom
>> > suck out all your braincells. I really have
>> > no words for being that stupid and slow.
>> >
>> > Bye
>> >
>> > In particular the repo contains two versions
>> > of a Hack VM, written in WebGPU / WGSL:
>> >
>> > Hack VM: Version 1.0
>> >
>> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget/blob/main/course/example63/boot.mjs
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Hack VM: Version 2.0
>> >
>> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget/blob/main/course/example64/boot2.mjs
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Version 1.0 is for a single compute shader
>> > expriment. And Version 2.o is for a multi
>> > compute shader experiment.
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Ride the snake
>>> He's old and his skin is cold
>>> The west is the best
>>> The west is the best
>>> Get here and we'll do the rest
>>> The blue bus is calling us
>>> The blue bus is calling us
>>> Driver, where you taking us?
>>>
>>> Apocalypse Now intro: The Doors, The End {1979}
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIrvSJwwJUE
>>>
>>> Bye
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Again I posted everything here:
>>>>
>>>>> 11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
>>>>> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget
>>>>
>>>> The repo says, same time when I posted
>>>> the link first time:
>>>>
>>>>> This repository was archived by the
>>>>> owner on Jul 9, 2026. It is now read-only.
>>>>
>>>> Now a USENET user, who had already entitled
>>>> himself for a couple of irrational accusations
>>>>
>>>> towards my side, is asking this question:
>>>>
>>>> Chris M. Thomasson schrieb, Jul 24, 2026
>>>>> Show an outline of what you
>>>>> need you compute shader to do?
>>>>
>>>> Bravo, thats a delay of a wooping 15 days.
>>>>
>>>> Bye
>>>
>>>
>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Remember when first all local AI was Python
>>>> and PyTorch APIs. And then suddently people strated
>>>> using bare metal C/C++ Code. Here is the story:
>>>>
>>>> How it started:
>>>>
>>>> GPT-J or GPT-J-6B is an open-source large
>>>> language model (LLM) developed by EleutherAI
>>>> in 2021. As the name suggests, it is a
>>>> generative pre-trained transformer model
>>>> designed to produce human-like text that
>>>> continues from a prompt.
>>>> https://www.eleuther.ai/
>>>>
>>>> How it was going [Georgi Gerganov]:
>>>>
>>>> So a few days later comes out the LLaMA, I do
>>>> some calculations and I figure out “Okay, 65
>>>> billion parameters. You probably need about
>>>> 40 gigs of RAM, with 4-bit quantization. So
>>>> this can run on a MacBook. Why not do it?”
>>>>
>>>> Why I was able to do it so quickly - basically,
>>>> for all that I saw it’s pretty much GPT-J architecture
>>>> with some modifications, like some extra memorization
>>>> layers. It’s minor changes. Basically, again, the
>>>> existing code for the GPT-J, I just simply
>>>> modified it there, it happened pretty quickly.
>>>> https://changelog.com/podcast/532
>>>>
>>>> Georgi Gerganov, Bulgarian, now with Hugging
>>>> Face, ggml-cann also running on Chinese AI chips.
>>>> ggml Manifesto https://github.com/ggml-org/ggml
>>>>
>>>> Bye
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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