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| From | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.logic |
| Subject | I nowhere talked about 10GB/s (Re: 404 Brain not Found [GPU saturation]) |
| Date | 2026-07-10 23:41 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <112rotl$b1h3$4@solani.org> (permalink) |
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Hi Dumbwit,
You are a real moron right.
11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget
What does LIPS mean. Look it up!
Nothing to do with bytes (B).
Bye
Hint: The speed of a Prolog implementation is
sometimes quoted in LIPS - logical inferences
per second.
See also:
Prolog basics CSc 372, Fall 2006 Prolog, Slide 154
W. H. Mitchell (whm@msweng.com)
https://www2.cs.arizona.edu/classes/cs372/fall06/prolog.sli.pdf
Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> Insist on what? Your stupidity? I only
> see 404 Brain not Found in your case.
> Who cares about 10GB/s, the facts are here:
>
> 1 Shader 4096 Shaders
> 542.0 ms 1141.0 ms
>
> Means with 4096 shaders and the problem at
> hand, we still didn't reach the GPU
> Knee in the case of a Ryzen AI 7 350
>
> w/ Radeon 860M. If you take another
> hardware, you might see another GPU
> saturation in the function
>
> f(N) = time used for N shaders.
>
> Bye
>
> P.S.: So whats YOUR hardware and GPU
> saturation? Its all open source:
>
> Here is the software:
>
> 11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget
>
> Here are the screenshots (of the timings):
>
> 11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
> https://medium.com/2989/899b0d5c027b
>
> > i must insist, memory arrays on AI gpu cards
> > are not for graphics, idiot.
> >
> > the proof? amazing a prolog guy dont even know what is going on in
> > background, here the speed for embedded gpu/cpu are for instructions
> > timing, not AI, hence say 10GB/s, which is nothing for running llm AI.
>
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hey Dumbwit,
>>
>> We are still waiting for result. You only
>> post gibberish:
>>
>> /* Gibberish I */
>> > idiot, embedding the graphic card gpu into
>> > the cpu, you already have there
>> > the bottleneck, low speeds in ai, disregard the ram size allocated
>> to the graphic card.
>>
>> Could you show us the bottleneck, is it
>> in the same room as us. Whats your proof?
>> During my testing the CPU just waits:
>>
>> await outputBuffer.mapAsync(GPUMapMode.READ);
>> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget/blob/main/course/example63/package.html#L181C1-L181C54
>>
>>
>> Whats your point ultra moron?
>>
>> /* Gibberish II */
>> > this imbecile doesnt know what ai and llm is, nor using it in
>> coding, programming etc, an idiot. He is doing graphics, what a fool.
>> AI graphic cards are not for graphics, cretin. What a fool.
>>
>> Could you show us where I use graphics?
>> The screenshots? The screenshots are only
>> timings shown. Like here:
>>
>> document.getElementById("result").innerText =
>> i32s[0].toString() + " /* "+Math.round(performance.now() - start)+" ms
>> */";
>> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget/blob/main/course/example63/package.html#L184C1-L185C67
>>
>>
>> Whats your point ultra moron?
>>
>> It seems you are highly confused Dumbwit!
>> Go see a doctor as fast as you can.
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>> Hey Dumbwit,
>>>
>>> We are waiting : 1 Month, 3 Months,
>>> 12 Months ... Mostlikely the idiot even
>>> doesn't own a RTX 5070. And if he owns
>>>
>>> a RTX 5070 he might struggle with setting
>>> up HTTPS, so that the browser gives you
>>> a WebGPU adapter.
>>>
>>> Well the good news is, you don't need
>>> a browser. You could also run it with
>>> node.js. Just use node.js dawn.
>>>
>>> See also
>>>
>>> Llamas on the Web: Memory-Efficient,
>>> Performance-Portable, and Multi-Precision
>>> LLM Inference with WebGPU
>>> Reese Levine et al. -- 20 May 2026
>>> Figure 2: Breakdown of the LlamaWeb llama.cpp WebGPU
>>> backend and its different paths for executing on GPUs.
>>> https://arxiv.org/abs/2605.20706
>>>
>>> But I didn't prepare some node.js code
>>> on my GitHub. I also dont use some WASM (*)
>>> helpers, its just pure HTML that taps
>>>
>>> into WebGPU via JavaScript inside a HTML page.
>>>
>>> Bye
>>>
>>> (*) Compute Toys seems to use WASM
>>> to support Slang besides WGSL.
>>>
>>> Mild Shock schrieb:
>>>> Hey Dumbwit,
>>>>
>>>> just run it on your RTX 5070 trash. I am
>>>> software developer, not a hardware
>>>> develper. I don't care what hardware
>>>>
>>>> people use. Here is the software:
>>>>
>>>> 11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
>>>> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget
>>>>
>>>> Here are the screenshots:
>>>>
>>>> 11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
>>>> https://medium.com/2989/899b0d5c027b
>>>>
>>>> You see in the screenshots with a
>>>> Ryzen AI 7 350 w/ Radeon 860M that the
>>>> results are:
>>>>
>>>> 1 Shader 4096 Shaders
>>>> 542.0 ms 1141.0 ms
>>>>
>>>> What does your RTX 5070 trash deliver?
>>>> Just redo the experiment on your hardware.
>>>> If the figures are better, well good for
>>>>
>>>> you. If the figures are worse, well I wouldn't
>>>> care less. You are just wasting everbodies
>>>> bandwidth with your idiotic posts, and being
>>>>
>>>> lazy, instead of replicating the experiment
>>>> on your RTX 5070 trash.
>>>>
>>>> Bye
>>>>
>>>> Olin Bagramov schrieb:
>>>> > Mild Shock wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> a wider von Neuann Neck. You can try yourself, in case you find
>>>> an AI
>>>> >> Laptop with similary specs as the Radeon 860M.
>>>> >
>>>> > idiot, that's nothing in llm, you are wasting your time
>>>> >
>>>> > compare with this, if you want proper llm
>>>> >
>>>> > HBM3e: The current flagship memory for the H200 and B200 series,
>>>> offering
>>>> > the highest bandwidth (~8 TB/s) required for trillion-parameter
>>>> models.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> >> Hi,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> You are a fucking moron, arent you?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Most of the stuff in my pi-WAM happens inside the L1 and L2
>>>> caches of
>>>> >> the GPU.
>>>> >> Which is faster than normal RAM and has
>>>> >>
>>>> >> a wider von Neuann Neck. You can try yourself, in case you find
>>>> an AI
>>>> >> Laptop with similary specs as the Radeon 860M.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The example is open source:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 11.4 Giga Lips with a Budget Laptop
>>>> >> https://github.com/Jean-Luc-Picard-2021/gigabudget
>>>> >
>>>> > L1 and L2 are small in size and slow, then the 6 stages
>>>> pipelining destroys the neural AI/llm algorithm; compare that with
>>>> 4,000 GB/s arrays gddr7 for a graphic card, then talk. You are not
>>>> good at numbers, are you
>>>
>>
>
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