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| From | David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | uk.telecom.broadband, uk.telecom.voip |
| Subject | Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service |
| Date | 2026-06-28 18:46 +0100 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <111rmkp$3oec0$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On 28/06/2026 13:17, J. P. Gilliver wrote: > On 2026/6/28 10:7:12, David Wade wrote: >> On 28/06/2026 01:31, J. P. Gilliver wrote: >>> On 2026/6/27 22:52:8, Roger Mills wrote: >>>> On 26/06/2026 20:54, David Wade wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> So "PlusNet" is your "Pound shop" internet only provider. >>>>> "EE" is for the vast majority of users. >>>>> "BT" is your Marks and Spencer or Waitrose customer... >>>>> >>> (BT must have improved a lot since I was with them.) >> >> Sorry "BT is marketed as for your Marks and Spencer or Waitrose customer" >> > Come to think of it, I haven't seen ad.s for BT at all, apart from > rather strange ones that show a software toggle switch that seem to > carry the slogan "the time will be wonderful". > [] >> I am with Voipfone. Pretty good. Very cheap if you just have the number >> and use PAYG for outbound calls, unless you ring a mobile. >> > Oh, are their to-mobile charges on the expensive side? Since the vast > majority of destinations _will_ be mobile after cutoff, that's not good. >> >>>> that (ATA or equivalent) because PN's Hub2 router, although it has a >>>> phone port, doesn't have the firmware to support it - and it probably >>>> wouldn't work with a 3rd party provider, even if it did. >>> >>> Yes, infuriating that. (I've been hoping someone would do a hack for it.) >> >> I can't believe that BT or EE use non-standard protocols. I assume they >> just use TR-069 to configure things, and don't provide a way to read or >> modify the configuration. > > I was considering the case of staying with PlusNet (and their router), > just using (as one would have to) a third-party VoIP provider - thinking > someone might do a hack for the PN router to actually use the hardware > it contains. But I doubt it. >> >> ZEN have a halfway house, so if you buy their phone service you have to >> use their router, and they use TR-069 to configure, but if you don't the >> config is unlocked so you can use third partys which is how mine is set up. > > You you can't have VoIP-only from Zen? And if you get both IC and VoIP > from them, there are restrictions (you can't use the VoIP with an ATA)? >> >> In fact if you can use a third party router the FritzBox that ZEN supply >> makes a great little multi-device ATA with support for multiple >> telephony devices, built-in voice mail/answerphone and is available on >> e-bay from those who have upgraded at reasonable prices. Just make sure >> you get a 7530ax in you want wifi6. >> > Useful info., thanks. >> >> >>>> >>>> As others have previously mentioned, if you don't want to make and >>>> receive voice calls on your "landline", but only want to make provision >>>> for people to leave voicemail messages for you, there are free VoIP >>>> accounts which will email you when a message is received and provide >>>> access to the audio - and you don't need any extra hardware for that. >>> >>> Do any of those free ones let you keep your number? I expect not. >> >> any examples? anyway no, but voipfone will.... > > Not for free, though. > > I'm currently well-disposed towards voipfone because when I first looked > into VoIP (probably a few years ago), they answered some > technical-but-VoIP-newbie questions I had in a friendly manner. But of > course (a) providers change [usually decline], though I've not heard any > such statements re voipfone, and (b) if their charges to mobiles - which > are likely to be the majority - are high ...# I think so, for mobiles Voipfone are 7p a minute, A&A are 4p a minute. For landlines voipfone are cheaper at 1p a minute, a&a 1.5p a minute. There are packages but not sure how much they save... I just use my mobile which is on a Lebara tariff via uSwitch and has unlimited minutes to landlines and mobiles plus 50gb of data for £8.00/month. If you don't need so much data you can get same for £4.95 Note you need to go via uSwitch to get these.... It has WiFi calling so no problems with signal and coverage.. Done tell me you find mobiles hard to hold. I never hold mine, put it on speaker and pop it on the chair arm or desk. >> >> Dave > > John Dave
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Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-06-26 19:27 +0100
Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-26 19:33 +0100
Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-26 19:54 +0100
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Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-26 21:30 +0100
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Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 14:03 +0000
Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-28 18:53 +0100
Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 18:41 +0000
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Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-28 13:17 +0100
Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-06-28 18:46 +0100
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