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Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service

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On 2026/6/28 10:7:12, David Wade wrote:
> On 28/06/2026 01:31, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>> On 2026/6/27 22:52:8, Roger Mills wrote:
>>> On 26/06/2026 20:54, David Wade wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> So "PlusNet" is your "Pound shop" internet only provider.
>>>> "EE" is for the vast majority of users.
>>>> "BT" is your Marks and Spencer or Waitrose customer...
>>>>
>> (BT must have improved a lot since I was with them.)
> 
> Sorry "BT is marketed as for your Marks and Spencer or Waitrose customer"
> 
Come to think of it, I haven't seen ad.s for BT at all, apart from
rather strange ones that show a software toggle switch that seem to
carry the slogan "the time will be wonderful".
[]
> I am with Voipfone. Pretty good. Very cheap if you just have the number 
> and use PAYG for outbound calls, unless you ring a mobile.
> 
Oh, are their to-mobile charges on the expensive side? Since the vast
majority of destinations _will_ be mobile after cutoff, that's not good.
> 
>>> that (ATA or equivalent) because PN's Hub2 router, although it has a
>>> phone port, doesn't have the firmware to support it - and it probably
>>> wouldn't work with a 3rd party provider, even if it did.
>>
>> Yes, infuriating that. (I've been hoping someone would do a hack for it.)
> 
> I can't believe that BT or EE use non-standard protocols. I assume they 
> just use TR-069 to configure things, and don't provide a way to read or 
> modify the configuration.

I was considering the case of staying with PlusNet (and their router),
just using (as one would have to) a third-party VoIP provider - thinking
someone might do a hack for the PN router to actually use the hardware
it contains. But I doubt it.
> 
> ZEN have a halfway house, so if you buy their phone service you have to 
> use their router, and they use TR-069 to configure, but if you don't the 
> config is unlocked so you can use third partys which is how mine is set up.

You you can't have VoIP-only from Zen? And if you get both IC and VoIP
from them, there are restrictions (you can't use the VoIP with an ATA)?
> 
> In fact if you can use a third party router the FritzBox that ZEN supply 
> makes a great little multi-device ATA with support for multiple 
> telephony devices, built-in voice mail/answerphone and is available on 
> e-bay from those who have upgraded at reasonable prices. Just make sure 
> you get a 7530ax in you want wifi6.
> 
Useful info., thanks.
> 
> 
>>>
>>> As others have previously mentioned, if you don't want to make and
>>> receive voice calls on your "landline", but only want to make provision
>>> for people to leave voicemail messages for you, there are free VoIP
>>> accounts which will email you when a message is received and provide
>>> access to the audio - and you don't need any extra hardware for that.
>>
>> Do any of those free ones let you keep your number? I expect not.
> 
> any examples? anyway no, but voipfone will....

Not for free, though.

I'm currently well-disposed towards voipfone because when I first looked
into VoIP (probably a few years ago), they answered some
technical-but-VoIP-newbie questions I had in a friendly manner. But of
course (a) providers change [usually decline], though I've not heard any
such statements re voipfone, and (b) if their charges to mobiles - which
are likely to be the majority - are high ...
> 
> Dave

John
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes

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Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-06-26 19:27 +0100
  Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-26 19:33 +0100
  Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-26 19:54 +0100
    Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-06-26 20:10 +0100
    Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-26 20:12 +0100
      Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-26 21:30 +0100
        Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-27 02:54 +0100
  Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-06-26 20:54 +0100
    Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service Roger Mills <mills37.fslife@gmail.com> - 2026-06-27 22:52 +0100
      Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-28 01:31 +0100
        Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 06:20 +0000
          Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-28 13:04 +0100
            Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-06-28 13:34 +0100
              Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-06-28 14:34 +0100
                Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-06-28 16:43 +0100
                Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-28 16:56 +0100
                Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service Bob Eager <throwaway0008@eager.cx> - 2026-06-28 17:33 +0000
                Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-06-28 16:57 +0100
                Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service Bob Eager <throwaway0008@eager.cx> - 2026-06-28 17:36 +0000
                Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 17:39 +0000
                Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-06-28 22:53 +0100
                Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service Bob Eager <throwaway0008@eager.cx> - 2026-06-28 22:50 +0000
                Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-06-29 05:30 +0000
                Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> - 2026-06-29 08:07 +0000
            Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 12:57 +0000
              Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-28 14:31 +0100
                Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 13:52 +0000
                Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-06-28 14:58 +0100
                Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 14:03 +0000
                Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-28 18:53 +0100
                Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-06-28 18:41 +0000
                Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service David Woolley <david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid> - 2026-07-01 14:27 +0100
        Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-06-28 10:07 +0100
          Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-28 13:17 +0100
            Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-06-28 18:46 +0100
            Re: Plusnet and Broadband - no email service, no phone service... and now no broadband service Mike Scott <usenet.16@scottsonline.org.uk.invalid> - 2026-06-28 20:00 +0100

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