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Re: My comparison of the Motorola G4 - Nexus 6s - iPhone 6s

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In article <nm1ivk$1se2$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Aardvarks
<aardvarks@a.b.c.com> wrote:

> 
> >> Is EVDO useful?
> > 
> > it was 10 years ago.
> > 
> > not so much now.
> 
> Thanks for explaining that.
> I'll conclude then, that, in terms of network, the three phones are 
> essentially equal.

you keep snipping where i said they aren't.

the 6s has just about all lte bands, while the other two don't.

not only that, but the 6s supports advanced lte as well as at&t's band
30.

that's a *huge* win for the 6s. 


> 
> > you're missing out on a shitload of new bluetooth functionality.
> > 
> > bluetooth 4 is not just a later version. it's actually very different
> > and does all kinds of cool stuff. 
> 
> OK. But they *all* have Bluetooth 4.1 (4.2 for the iPhone 6s); so, they all 
> have bluetooth 4, so, from a price:performance standpoint, bluetooth falls 
> out of the equation, right?

the difference may be small, but it's not zero.

the 6s has the highest bluetooth spec.

you don't get to dismiss that because you want the nexus to win your
silly and flawed comparison.

> > it doesn't need to do that since iphones can transfer files way the
> > fuck faster in other ways (and to *any* device). so can android, if
> > you'd only lose your fixation of bluetooth file transfer.
> 
> So from a price:performance standpoint, we agree, the bluetooth feature of 
> the three phones is a wash. Right?

see above.

btle support on ios is *much* better than on android.

this is exactly why comparing raw specs is flawed.

while several android phones claims to have bluetooth 4, software
support for it sucks. it's a bit buggy, so not as many devices actually
use it, although that's starting to change. 

> > i'm surprised you don't insist on a pop-out rj11 modem jack for when
> > there's no cellular service.
> 
> I'm trying to compare intelligently.
> To do that, I asked a few questions about bluetooth (and other things).
> No need to get snippy. 
> You helped me answer the bluetooth question, which is that the three phones 
> are essentially similar in bluetooth capability in terms of raw performance 
> metrics. 

your entire comparison can be summed up as follows:

nexus 6 wins.


> > android nfc can be used for more than just mobile payments.
> > on apple, nfc is currently just apple pay.
> 
> So, again, aren't you agreeing that the two phones (Nexus 6 and iPhone 6s) 
> are "essentially equivalent" in terms of NFC capabilties?

no.

> Sure, the Nexus 6 has slightly better NFC - but - overall - aren't they 
> "essentially equivalent" in terms of NFC real-world usefulness?

nfc on android is actually more useful than on ios.

on the other hand, btle is more useful on ios. 

> > the nexus 6 is a little bigger than a 6s+, so those are the two you
> > should be comparing.
> 
> Already the iPhone 6s has to be more than twice as feature rich as the 
> Nexus 6 just to have the same price-to-performance ratio. 

no.

> If I start comparing to the iPhone 6s+, then the iPhone 6s+ has to be even 
> more than twice as feature rich simply to have the same 
> price-to-performance ratio as the Nexus 6.

no.

> > that little bit of size difference is actually very noticeable in the
> > hand, so be sure to actually hold the phones before deciding. 
> 
> Size is one of those factors that people will weigh differently.
> I never want a bigger phone than whatever my Samsung Galaxy S3 is, for 
> example. My wife is perfectly happy with the even smaller Motorola G.

then you won't like the nexus 6 *at* *all*.

all tis time you've been babbling about how wonderful the specs of the
nexus 6 are, yet you *ignore* one of the most important specs, it's
*size*.

it's big. very big.

nexus 6 versus galaxy s5
<http://phandroid.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/nexus-6-GS
5.png>

nexus 5 versus nexus 6:
<http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/wp-content/phoneimages/Nexus-6-vs-Nexus-5-
b.jpg>

> Size is bad from the standpoint of battery life and from the standpoint of 
> fitting in a pair of jeans while hiking down a mountain - but size is 
> better from the standpoint of bigger icons and larger text.
> 
> So, people are going to have to weight size on their own.
> (I might do that comparison though, in a later post.)
> 
> > for those who like clown phones, the nexus 6 feels much bigger even
> > though by the ruler, it's kinda close.
> 
> To me, whatever size the Galaxy S3 is, is a perfect size. 
> Most likely that's smaller than the phones compared here.

quite a bit smaller.

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