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Mastodon (and the fediverse) (was: Re: SDF Public Access Unix System)

From	Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups	alt.folklore.computers
Subject	Mastodon (and the fediverse) (was: Re: SDF Public Access Unix System)
Date	2026-06-05 09:53 +0100
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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On 2026-06-04, Koen Martens wrote:

> Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> Sadly it seems to be at least their unofficial charter. The UI has some
>> issues that perhaps wouldn't exist if it didn't try to mimick twitter,
>> and this besides the short character limit per post, which basically
>> forces people to do "multiposts" even for short stuff, and even
>> complicates usage of hashtags.
>> 
>> Sadly that one is hardcoded, it can be changed but AFAIK isn't something
>> exposed as a setting administrators can change...
>
> The maximum post length can be changed on mastodon.

(AFAIK it's hardcoded, not an exposed setting. So it can be changed but
only in the code directly, and requires recompiling or at least
redeploying, see [1,2].)

[1] <https://mastodon.ie/@2legged/115830641882158143>
[2] <https://oldfriends.live/@paul/115830834904852474>

(Threads have context, but in these two cases the post themselves are
what I want to point to, so checking page metadata to read the posts is
sufficient in incompatible browsers, albeit not as easy as just serving
that content in plain HTML...)

> What that doesn't fix is that people on mastodon don't see threads. I
> use friendica, which does show complete threads, but everytime I post
> something that's mildly popular, I get 10x the same response from
> mastodon people who haven't seen the other 9 responses because mastodon
> doesn't show that.

*Sigh*. There seem to be improvements in this, as now the instance I use
will often say "more replies found", but it still seems suboptimal. If
other fediverse systems fare better here, then, yes, it'd be good to get
that on Mastodon.

That besides the point that even when displaying the full thread,
Mastodon's official UIs still don't display it as a thread, with
nesting. As an example http://threadtree.xyz does this but leaves out
attachments. I guess this one goes into the "wants to imitate twitter"
bucket?

>>> Thankfully, there's lots of other fediverse servers that are a lot less
>>> resource hungry. GoToSocial comes to mind, or snac.
>>>
>>> https://gotosocial.org/
>>> https://codeberg.org/grunfink/snac2
>> 
>> Brutaldon at least allows a more pleasant experience, even if limited in
>> some features, but it has issues in OAuth2 that have not been fixed,
>> making it so that a brutaldon instance might be unable to authenticate
>> with a mastodon instance if certain conditions have been met in the
>> past.
>
> Brutaldon, first I hear about that one. Something to check out!

Might even enable browsing mastodon on low-bandwidth and/or high-latency
connections. Most of the troubles I've had with it have been because of
the instance itself, not because of brutaldon.

-- 
Nuno Silva

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SDF Public Access Unix System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-14 21:09 +0000
  Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2026-02-14 17:31 -0500
  Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2026-02-15 11:12 -0800
  Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Beej Jorgensen <beej@beej.us> - 2026-02-17 19:07 +0000
    Re: SDF Public Access Unix System "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-oru-this> - 2026-02-18 07:50 -0800
      Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2026-02-18 09:45 -0800
      Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Beej Jorgensen <beej@beej.us> - 2026-02-19 03:15 +0000
        Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-19 03:49 +0000
        Re: SDF Public Access Unix System "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-d7b-this> - 2026-02-19 07:16 -0800
          Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Juancho <eternal@notreally.com> - 2026-05-31 06:57 +0200
            Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-31 08:46 +0100
              Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-05-31 08:11 -0700
              Re: SDF Public Access Unix System gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) - 2026-05-31 17:58 +0000
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 11:49 +0100
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) - 2026-06-04 16:09 +0000
                Mastodon (and the fediverse) (was: Re: SDF Public Access Unix System) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-05 09:53 +0100
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) - 2026-06-05 09:03 +0000
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-06-05 17:28 +0100
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) SpallsHurgenson(NG) <user14325@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-05 16:47 +0000
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-05 23:57 +0000
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-06 07:07 -0400
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Jonathan Lamothe <jonathan@jlamothe.net> - 2026-06-06 14:59 -0400
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-06 21:16 +0000
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 00:23 +0100
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Jonathan Lamothe <jonathan@jlamothe.net> - 2026-06-07 09:28 -0400
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 16:15 +0100
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2026-06-07 16:42 +0000
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 23:11 +0000
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 00:58 +0100
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-08 00:21 +0000
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Jonathan Lamothe <jonathan@jlamothe.net> - 2026-06-06 14:56 -0400
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 00:11 +0100
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-07 00:17 +0000
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 02:33 +0000
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Jonathan Lamothe <jonathan@jlamothe.net> - 2026-06-07 09:25 -0400
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-07 12:24 -0400
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Daniel Cerqueira <dan.list@lispclub.com> - 2026-06-07 07:05 +0100
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 08:04 +0000
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Root Badger <admin@rootbadger.com> - 2026-06-07 18:43 +0000
              Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Jonathan Lamothe <jonathan@jlamothe.net> - 2026-06-01 12:34 -0400
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Daniel Cerqueira <dan.list@lispclub.com> - 2026-06-01 20:11 +0100
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 11:52 +0100
            Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2026-06-01 14:06 -0700
              Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-02 01:46 +0000
              Re: SDF Public Access Unix System cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-06-02 11:01 +0000
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-06-02 09:17 -0700
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-06-02 17:30 +0000
              Re: SDF Public Access Unix System "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-9jk-this> - 2026-06-02 07:25 -0700
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-02 22:00 +0000
              Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Juancho <eternal@notreally.com> - 2026-06-03 19:50 +0200
      Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-21 10:11 +0000

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