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Re: SDF Public Access Unix System

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In article <87jysix95j.fsf@rpi3>, Daniel  <me@sc1f1dan.com> wrote:
>Juancho <eternal@notreally.com> writes:
>
>> 2026-02-19, Kurt Weiske <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-d7b-this> wrote:
>>> -=> Beej Jorgensen wrote to alt.folklore.computers <=-
>>>
>>> > *  realitycheckBBS - Aptos, CA - telnet://realitycheckbbs.org
>>>
>>>  BJ> Excellent... One of my many side projects to never get to is to write a
>>>  BJ> new BBS from scratch in Rust. :)
>>>
>>> Please do! There are others writing BBSes from scratch and resurrecting
>>> old BBS packages. It's exciting seeing some activity in the scene.
>>
>> BBS are quite isolated in terms of "reaching out to the world", I don't see
>> their appeal compared to hosting/using a pubnix/tilde server loaded to the
>> brim with Internet-native, text-based tools.
>
>That's not true, whatsoever. Under normal circumstances, I would suggest
>visiting a few bbs systems out there. But, not in this case.
>
>> I see BBS as islands designed to serve small geographical areas in the times of
>> metered dial-up connectivity. For that scenario, they totally made sense.
>
>In the 1980s and early 90s, this was true.
>
>Today, some boards are silo'd by design, and in many cases it's for
>nostalgia. Sometimes, it's a project board owned by sysops who have
>multiple live BBS systems. But there are many bbses that aren't
>silo'd whatsoever. Far from it.
>
>Many boards, like mine, have portals to wikipedia and weather
>services, lynx interface, some sports API access. We even aggregate news
>feeds with full story downloads. No ads, clickbait, side-loaded iframes,
>trackers, cookies, cookie alerts. Quite a number of boards out there
>serve as information gateways for all to use.

I think the idea is that BBSes provide you with a captive, menu
driven interface, and so therefore you're constrained by what
that interface provides.

There's nothing wrong with that; some of them are very cool.

But it's not clear to me how any of that is better or more
flexibile than access to a shell on an actual timesharing
system.

>> [snip]
>> Now that we have always-on Internet and cheap UNIX-derived/-inspired operating
>> systems (instead of MS-DOS machines), there are better options than BBS.
>
>None of your statements are true. Some guys out there may have believed
>your malicious post and some of them may have turned away from exploring
>the mature BBS landscape. I'm just glad that the usenet population is
>really small and niche. The damage you've done may be minimal.

It's a subjective statement, but so is your reply.

People should go look at BBSes if they want to.  Some of the
artwork, for example, is amazing.  But they are not something
that needs defense on their technical merits.

	- Dan C.

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SDF Public Access Unix System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-14 21:09 +0000
  Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2026-02-14 17:31 -0500
  Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2026-02-15 11:12 -0800
  Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Beej Jorgensen <beej@beej.us> - 2026-02-17 19:07 +0000
    Re: SDF Public Access Unix System "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-oru-this> - 2026-02-18 07:50 -0800
      Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2026-02-18 09:45 -0800
      Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Beej Jorgensen <beej@beej.us> - 2026-02-19 03:15 +0000
        Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-19 03:49 +0000
        Re: SDF Public Access Unix System "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-d7b-this> - 2026-02-19 07:16 -0800
          Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Juancho <eternal@notreally.com> - 2026-05-31 06:57 +0200
            Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-31 08:46 +0100
              Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-05-31 08:11 -0700
              Re: SDF Public Access Unix System gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) - 2026-05-31 17:58 +0000
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 11:49 +0100
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) - 2026-06-04 16:09 +0000
                Mastodon (and the fediverse) (was: Re: SDF Public Access Unix System) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-05 09:53 +0100
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) - 2026-06-05 09:03 +0000
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-06-05 17:28 +0100
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) SpallsHurgenson(NG) <user14325@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-05 16:47 +0000
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-05 23:57 +0000
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-06 07:07 -0400
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Jonathan Lamothe <jonathan@jlamothe.net> - 2026-06-06 14:59 -0400
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-06 21:16 +0000
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 00:23 +0100
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Jonathan Lamothe <jonathan@jlamothe.net> - 2026-06-07 09:28 -0400
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 16:15 +0100
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2026-06-07 16:42 +0000
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 23:11 +0000
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 00:58 +0100
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-08 00:21 +0000
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Jonathan Lamothe <jonathan@jlamothe.net> - 2026-06-06 14:56 -0400
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 00:11 +0100
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-07 00:17 +0000
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 02:33 +0000
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Jonathan Lamothe <jonathan@jlamothe.net> - 2026-06-07 09:25 -0400
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-07 12:24 -0400
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Daniel Cerqueira <dan.list@lispclub.com> - 2026-06-07 07:05 +0100
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 08:04 +0000
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Root Badger <admin@rootbadger.com> - 2026-06-07 18:43 +0000
              Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Jonathan Lamothe <jonathan@jlamothe.net> - 2026-06-01 12:34 -0400
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Daniel Cerqueira <dan.list@lispclub.com> - 2026-06-01 20:11 +0100
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 11:52 +0100
            Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2026-06-01 14:06 -0700
              Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-02 01:46 +0000
              Re: SDF Public Access Unix System cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-06-02 11:01 +0000
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-06-02 09:17 -0700
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-06-02 17:30 +0000
              Re: SDF Public Access Unix System "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-9jk-this> - 2026-06-02 07:25 -0700
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-02 22:00 +0000
              Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Juancho <eternal@notreally.com> - 2026-06-03 19:50 +0200
      Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-21 10:11 +0000

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