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Re: SDF Public Access Unix System

From Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: SDF Public Access Unix System
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Date 2026-06-01 14:06 -0700

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Juancho <eternal@notreally.com> writes:

> 2026-02-19, Kurt Weiske <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-d7b-this> wrote:
>> -=> Beej Jorgensen wrote to alt.folklore.computers <=-
>>
>> > *  realitycheckBBS - Aptos, CA - telnet://realitycheckbbs.org
>>
>>  BJ> Excellent... One of my many side projects to never get to is to write a
>>  BJ> new BBS from scratch in Rust. :)
>>
>> Please do! There are others writing BBSes from scratch and resurrecting
>> old BBS packages. It's exciting seeing some activity in the scene.
>
> BBS are quite isolated in terms of "reaching out to the world", I don't see
> their appeal compared to hosting/using a pubnix/tilde server loaded to the
> brim with Internet-native, text-based tools.

That's not true, whatsoever. Under normal circumstances, I would suggest
visiting a few bbs systems out there. But, not in this case.

> I see BBS as islands designed to serve small geographical areas in the times of
> metered dial-up connectivity. For that scenario, they totally made sense.

In the 1980s and early 90s, this was true.

Today, some boards are silo'd by design, and in many cases it's for
nostalgia. Sometimes, it's a project board owned by sysops who have
multiple live BBS systems. But there are many bbses that aren't
silo'd whatsoever. Far from it.

Many boards, like mine, have portals to wikipedia and weather
services, lynx interface, some sports API access. We even aggregate news
feeds with full story downloads. No ads, clickbait, side-loaded iframes,
trackers, cookies, cookie alerts. Quite a number of boards out there
serve as information gateways for all to use.

> But there are better options (namely, pubnix and tildes) for partaking in the
> smolnet in a world of always-on, universal Internet access.

That's merely your opinion. What seems better to one may not be for
others.

> Why use BBS-siloed message boards, when you can have full USENET access?

We've had usenet for many years as well. Have you been on a bbs in the
last forty years? It doesn't seem like it. We don't require modems
anymore. Some boards still offer dialup access on top of ssh/telnet. It
is more for nostalgic reasons though.

> Why use FIDO email and convoluted inter-zones gateways, when you can have full
> Internet email?

For a number of years, my primary email was on a bbs. I even had
thunderbird configured to pull from it if I wasn't going to be on the
bbs that day. IMAP for the win. 

Synchronet has supported this feature as far back as I remember and the
developer of the system has been quite active on adding features for
years. Hell, the primary scripting language for door creation is
javascript. Can't be more web-based/modern than that. 

I don't actually offer echomail on my bbs. But this may change after I
switch bbs services. Time will tell.

> Why use BBS chat rooms, when you have IRC at a global scale?

IRC has been long supported as well as MRC. Ddial is also
available via rlogin or via MRC uplink or via IRC. I've use my bbs
exlusively to chat on IRC as long as it has been online.

> Why bother publishing anything in a BBS-constrained presence, when you
> can publish a Gopher site and instantly be world-reachable?

It's not hard to connect via telnet/ssh to read anything
published. There are a number of gopher browsers a sysop can choose
from, or use lynx. Many sysops publish their works not only on the
boards they operate, but also on phlogs. They operate gopher sites as a
companion to their boards. It's a hobby.

We also have a number of gopher doors that a sysop can choose from to
give users gopher access. This is another long supported feature.

BBS systems are about as silo'd as a website is silo'd.

> Now that we have always-on Internet and cheap UNIX-derived/-inspired operating
> systems (instead of MS-DOS machines), there are better options than BBS.

None of your statements are true. Some guys out there may have believed
your malicious post and some of them may have turned away from exploring
the mature BBS landscape. I'm just glad that the usenet population is
really small and niche. The damage you've done may be minimal.

--
Daniel
sysop  | air & wave bbs
finger | info@bbs.airandwave.net

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SDF Public Access Unix System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-14 21:09 +0000
  Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2026-02-14 17:31 -0500
  Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2026-02-15 11:12 -0800
  Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Beej Jorgensen <beej@beej.us> - 2026-02-17 19:07 +0000
    Re: SDF Public Access Unix System "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-oru-this> - 2026-02-18 07:50 -0800
      Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2026-02-18 09:45 -0800
      Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Beej Jorgensen <beej@beej.us> - 2026-02-19 03:15 +0000
        Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-19 03:49 +0000
        Re: SDF Public Access Unix System "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-d7b-this> - 2026-02-19 07:16 -0800
          Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Juancho <eternal@notreally.com> - 2026-05-31 06:57 +0200
            Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-31 08:46 +0100
              Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-05-31 08:11 -0700
              Re: SDF Public Access Unix System gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) - 2026-05-31 17:58 +0000
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 11:49 +0100
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) - 2026-06-04 16:09 +0000
                Mastodon (and the fediverse) (was: Re: SDF Public Access Unix System) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-05 09:53 +0100
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) - 2026-06-05 09:03 +0000
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-06-05 17:28 +0100
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) SpallsHurgenson(NG) <user14325@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-05 16:47 +0000
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-05 23:57 +0000
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-06 07:07 -0400
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Jonathan Lamothe <jonathan@jlamothe.net> - 2026-06-06 14:59 -0400
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-06 21:16 +0000
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 00:23 +0100
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Jonathan Lamothe <jonathan@jlamothe.net> - 2026-06-07 09:28 -0400
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 16:15 +0100
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2026-06-07 16:42 +0000
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 23:11 +0000
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 00:58 +0100
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-08 00:21 +0000
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Jonathan Lamothe <jonathan@jlamothe.net> - 2026-06-06 14:56 -0400
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 00:11 +0100
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-07 00:17 +0000
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 02:33 +0000
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Jonathan Lamothe <jonathan@jlamothe.net> - 2026-06-07 09:25 -0400
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-07 12:24 -0400
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Daniel Cerqueira <dan.list@lispclub.com> - 2026-06-07 07:05 +0100
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 08:04 +0000
                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Root Badger <admin@rootbadger.com> - 2026-06-07 18:43 +0000
              Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Jonathan Lamothe <jonathan@jlamothe.net> - 2026-06-01 12:34 -0400
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Daniel Cerqueira <dan.list@lispclub.com> - 2026-06-01 20:11 +0100
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 11:52 +0100
            Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2026-06-01 14:06 -0700
              Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-02 01:46 +0000
              Re: SDF Public Access Unix System cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-06-02 11:01 +0000
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-06-02 09:17 -0700
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-06-02 17:30 +0000
              Re: SDF Public Access Unix System "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-9jk-this> - 2026-06-02 07:25 -0700
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-02 22:00 +0000
              Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Juancho <eternal@notreally.com> - 2026-06-03 19:50 +0200
      Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-21 10:11 +0000

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