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Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you.

From Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you.
Date 2026-05-19 17:52 +0000
Organization NOYB
Message-ID <10uidvd.o0s.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> (permalink)
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sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
> On 5/19/2026 11:02 AM, Paul wrote:
> 
> > One 18 page document on Secure Boot, lists as one objective
> > that the device not be bricked. The device is allowed to retry
> > the defective transaction [snicker], or to try to boot from
> > another boot device [snicker], but that's kinda the definition
> > of insanity. There's no reason to believe (on average)
> > that for the machine, life is a box of chocolates. There might
> > easily only be one boot device, and a failure to move forward
> > is effectively brickage.
> 
> So this morning I again checked the event viewer and the secure boot 
> update still is failing.  So I went back to the HP site and checked 
> again for a new BIOS.  It reports I am on the latest version, nothing to 
> see here.
> 
> Do you think they are trying to address this issue across HP computers, 
> or are we all gonna be screwed one morning?

  As to the HP BIOS issue: I have an HP laptop with a rather old BIOS
("AMI F.07, 04/07/2023" according to System Information) and the 'Secure
boot' part of 'Device security' of 'Windows Security' says I'm fine:

"<power icon with green tick-mark> Secure boot

 Secure Boot is on and all required certificate
 updates have been applied. No further
 certificate changes are needed."

  What does it say for you?

  As to "are we all gonna be screwed one morning?", see my upcoming
response to Paul.

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Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. anon <noreply@mixmin.net> - 2026-05-19 03:30 +0100
  Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-05-18 23:20 -0500
    Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-05-19 02:08 -0400
      Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-05-19 23:06 -0500
        Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-05-20 03:17 -0400
  Act now: Secure Boot certificates expire in June 2026 - Windows IT Pro Blog "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-05-19 13:48 +0800
    Re: Act now: Secure Boot certificates expire in June 2026 - Windows IT Pro Blog "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-05-19 15:02 +0200
      Re: Act now: Secure Boot certificates expire in June 2026 - Windows IT Pro Blog "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-05-19 22:48 +0800
        Re: Act now: Secure Boot certificates expire in June 2026 - Windows IT Pro Blog "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-05-19 16:53 +0200
          Re: Act now: Secure Boot certificates expire in June 2026 - Windows IT Pro Blog "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-05-19 11:04 -0400
    Re: Act now: Secure Boot certificates expire in June 2026 - Windows IT Pro Blog JJ <jj4public@gmail.com> - 2026-05-19 20:37 +0700
      Re: Act now: Secure Boot certificates expire in June 2026 - Windows IT Pro Blog "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-05-19 22:47 +0800
      Re: Act now: Secure Boot certificates expire in June 2026 - Windows IT Pro Blog "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-05-19 11:00 -0400
  Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2026-05-19 11:44 +0100
    Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-05-19 14:40 +0200
      Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-05-19 10:31 -0400
        Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-05-19 16:55 +0200
          Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-19 18:48 +0100
            Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-05-20 15:34 +0200
      Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-05-19 12:02 -0400
        Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2026-05-19 11:30 -0500
          Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-05-19 17:52 +0000
            Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-05-19 16:29 -0400
            Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2026-05-19 16:07 -0500
              Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2026-05-19 16:43 -0500
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2026-05-19 17:00 -0500
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2026-05-19 20:13 -0500
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2026-05-20 07:42 -0500
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-05-20 13:50 +0000
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2026-05-20 09:11 -0500
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-05-20 11:11 -0400
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2026-05-20 11:46 -0500
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-05-20 20:18 -0400
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-05-21 08:34 +0100
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-05-21 10:24 -0400
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-05-21 18:15 +0000
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-05-22 19:45 +1000
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-22 20:52 +0100
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-05-22 17:50 -0400
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-05-23 00:43 -0400
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-05-23 19:33 +1000
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2026-06-10 18:23 -0500
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-10 19:58 -0400
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-11 20:53 +1000
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-11 23:09 +1000
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-11 22:19 -0400
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2026-06-11 21:26 -0500
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-14 03:56 -0400
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2026-06-16 08:05 -0500
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 10:35 -0400
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2026-06-16 09:54 -0500
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 14:31 -0400
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2026-06-16 18:40 -0500
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 20:12 -0400
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2026-06-16 20:08 -0500
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-17 02:33 -0400
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-12 00:42 -0400
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-13 21:16 -0400
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-15 06:11 -0400
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-15 09:31 -0400
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-15 10:33 -0400
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net> - 2026-06-15 09:22 -0800
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-15 20:48 -0400
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-16 08:38 -0400
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net> - 2026-06-16 08:26 -0800
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-16 14:51 -0400
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net> - 2026-06-17 08:25 -0800
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-06-18 02:21 -0400
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-05-20 18:05 -0400
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2026-05-20 18:31 -0500
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-05-20 20:12 -0400
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2026-05-20 20:16 -0500
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-05-22 11:15 -0400
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2026-05-22 11:15 -0500
                Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-05-22 17:27 -0400
              Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-05-19 21:00 -0400
          Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. John Smith <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-19 19:00 +0100
            Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-05-19 16:34 -0400
        Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-05-19 17:52 +0000
      Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2026-05-21 11:22 +0100
    Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. Stan Brown <someone@example.com> - 2026-05-19 17:46 -0700
      Re: Microsoft intends to kill your computer, no Secure Boot updates for you. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-05-19 21:14 -0400

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