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| From | Taskfreak <taskfreak@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics |
| Subject | Re: A Fake War With Iran Getting Close :-) |
| Date | 2026-02-22 11:31 -0600 |
| Organization | Modern Human |
| Message-ID | <10nfei8$konc$1@solani.org> (permalink) |
| References | (16 earlier) <10n3cr2$c8qr$1@solani.org> <10n51aa$dqr1$1@solani.org> <10n55kr$dg7k$1@solani.org> <10n8tfn$fu9u$1@solani.org> <10nfc8j$kmqi$1@solani.org> |
On 2/22/26 10:52 AM, Taskfreak wrote: > On 2/20/26 12:03 AM, Taskfreak wrote: >> On 2/18/26 1:58 PM, Taskfreak wrote: >>> On 2/18/26 12:44 PM, Taskfreak wrote: >>>> On 2/17/26 9:48 PM, Taskfreak wrote: >>>>> On 2/17/26 5:15 PM, Taskfreak wrote: >>>>>> On 2/15/26 10:43 PM, Taskfreak wrote: >>>>>>> On 2/15/26 9:51 PM, Taskfreak wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2/12/26 12:39 AM, Taskfreak wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2/10/26 1:53 PM, Taskfreak wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 2/7/26 3:28 PM, Taskfreak wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> So at this point I'm on the side of the 50% who think the war >>>>>>>>>>> will not happen, and on the side of the 100% who think Iran >>>>>>>>>>> won't accept any of the four unrealistic conditions even if >>>>>>>>>>> all the sanctions against her are removed! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Do you know that right before the new "negotiations" began, >>>>>>>>>> USA quietly slipped an additional 5th condition to the >>>>>>>>>> previous 4 ?.. Hahhahhahhhah :-))) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you look at that additional condition you'll immediately >>>>>>>>>> see why Trump did it and why Iran accepted another "negotiation". >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It says something along these lines: Iran should not make >>>>>>>>>> aggressive attacks against any of her neighbors. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> :-) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Well, I bet you Sheep don't know that Iran has not made an >>>>>>>>>> aggressive attack on any of her neighbors for the past 250 >>>>>>>>>> years!.. The last one was carried out by Nader Shah. Any other >>>>>>>>>> attack since, has been for the sole act of defense against >>>>>>>>>> aggressive attacks from neighbors toward Iran. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So Trump wants Iran to "agree" to that condition, and to that >>>>>>>>>> condition only, so he can say he won, therefore no war :) >>>>>>>>>> Hahhhahah :-) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> He's done stuff like that before too, you know, circumventing >>>>>>>>>> all those faggot Neocons who want war with Iran. Hehe :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am still thinking the same. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Netanyahu's visit didn't change anything. He probably just >>>>>>>>> flashed Trump some more files :-) Hehe :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And since Trump is so confident nobody can prosecute him >>>>>>>>> regarding Epstein's files, decisions about Iran stayed the same. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Why is Trump so confident about being protected against those >>>>>>>>> files?.. He cannot be innocent, and he cooperated with FBI to >>>>>>>>> go against Epstein. This only means one thing. He must've asked >>>>>>>>> FBI for immunity in return for helping FBI get Epstein. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That's why he is so confident about his being protected, even >>>>>>>>> after Netanyahu flashing more files for him. And yet, he is >>>>>>>>> still opposing the prosecution to continue on those files, so >>>>>>>>> he is in his turn protecting someone else. It may have to do >>>>>>>>> with Emarat! :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In his English language post, Araghchi in response to Munich >>>>>>>> Security Circus today said, "Europe is nowhere to be seen!" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hahhahhah :-)) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And in his continuation of describing EU referred to it as a >>>>>>>> "peripheral" entity :-) You know what that word means, >>>>>>>> peripheral, don't you :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Translated to penitentiary English, "Bitch" is what it means! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Did you see the Valentine twit that the Israel's account in X >>>>>>> did? It went something like this: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Dear World, I will never leave you. XOXO Love, Israel" then >>>>>>> a heart with star of david in it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just check the psychological state of these people.. >>>>>>> Hahhahhahhahh :-))) They say it thmselves! :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What fucked up morons. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> China has delivered scores of radars to Iran and they've filled up >>>>>> all the holes and vacuums across Iran. Also many (the number is >>>>>> high, but as of yet secret) modern and new fighter jets. Iran is >>>>>> to pay for all this in the future, not right away. >>>>>> >>>>>> All sorts of communication systems and air defense equipment have >>>>>> been delivered and implemented as well. This includes the Chinese >>>>>> versions of AWACS. I think they want to test a lot of these >>>>>> systems against U.S. and/or Israeli air attacks in a real war. >>>>>> >>>>>> Another important update is that there are now numerous >>>>>> information gathering Chinese ships placed at strategic places in >>>>>> the Persian Gulf, Oman Sea, and the Arabian sea, as well as >>>>>> information gathering equipment across Iran (especially close to >>>>>> all borders and desert routes) which have totally nullified >>>>>> American Navy and inland forces ability to engage in "surprise" >>>>>> attacks against Iran. >>>>>> >>>>>> China's concern is for the whole region, not just the Iran's >>>>>> share. Especially the oil industries on which they are dependent. >>>>>> So this move from China lowers the probability of attacks by Iran >>>>>> on oil industries, and raises the probability of attacks on >>>>>> Amerinan business assets in the two cities I mentioned a few days >>>>>> back, and on attacking the American bases all around Iran and the >>>>>> Persian Gulf. >>>>>> >>>>>> So war option is now even less favored today than it was just days >>>>>> back. >>>>>> >>>>>> And you must know Iran by now. If you do, you would know that she >>>>>> will never conduct an operation in relation to one objective only. >>>>>> The operation will be multi-faceted. This negotiation she is >>>>>> conducting with the USA in Europe is itself quite a multifaceted >>>>>> operation. For instance, I heard that Iran has even included >>>>>> offers for American businesses' investments in some sectors inside >>>>>> Iran to circumvent some of the unrealistic conditions that USA is >>>>>> (on the surface) imposing on her, and to contrast it to the huge >>>>>> loss of USA's investments in the two Emarati cities should a war >>>>>> with Iran take place. This has quite frightened the Israelis :-) I >>>>>> can measure that fear by measuring anti- Iranian propaganda that >>>>>> Israel supports and how disturbed and concerned they've suddenly >>>>>> become. Literally shocked. They had not been prepared for it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Such Israeli backed outlets, often inviting "specialists" to give >>>>>> their takes about how Iran will lose in just every aspect of >>>>>> development that there is, now, and I mean within only the last >>>>>> couple of days, cannot anymore hold the discussions under control! >>>>>> Every one of them quickly is led to a nasty verbal fight between >>>>>> the interviewers and their hosts! Hehe :) >>>>>> >>>>>> In other words, Israelis are now crying, not arguing. The pain of >>>>>> the upcoming loss, the dread of failing in this grand operation >>>>>> they have conducted to push the American forces against Iran, has >>>>>> overwhelmed them. And it should. >>>>>> >>>>>> It points to an old deep well-kept secret knowledge inside them, >>>>>> the Israelis, that they are weaker than Iran and Iranians. As an >>>>>> individual, as a team, as a tribe, as a society, as a nation, and >>>>>> especially as a civilization, they are weaker than the Iranians. >>>>>> >>>>>> And this new development which was purposefully leaked out by the >>>>>> Iranians, aiming at no one but the Israelis, brings that deep fear >>>>>> up in them yet one more time. It is an ancient fear indeed. >>>>>> >>>>>> I told you about their state of mind seen in their Valentine's >>>>>> post. It was a reflection of the fear I just described, except >>>>>> that they switched the word _inferiority_ with the word >>>>>> "existence" itself to justify their mass murders. All in the open >>>>>> for the right eyes to see! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> But despite all these moves towards a more stable situation, one in >>>>> which war is avoided, Iran is feverishly getting ready for war. >>>>> Just today, Iran closed off the strait of Hormoz for several hours >>>>> to conduct tests for her new AI driven system that will be used for >>>>> stopping the oil traffic through the strait in the coming war. Lots >>>>> of Iranian defense forces just yesterday were done with getting >>>>> stationed behind northeastern areas to counter last week's >>>>> Americans' moving fighter jets to the Tajikestan Republic. >>>>> >>>>> Also, the spread of radars and missiles on eastern Iran in general >>>>> indicates that despite Pakestan's firm statement on not allowing >>>>> American forces to use their air space, Iran is still treating that >>>>> angle as if some U.S. aircrafts will come in via that angle. >>>>> >>>>> In a nutshell, although prospects look good for an agreement (a win >>>>> for both Trump and Iran), this time around there will be no >>>>> surprise attacks similar to those in last June. >>>>> >>>>> Eastern Iran played a huge role in winning the 12-day war last >>>>> June. It was the area where Israeli jets could not reach. It was >>>>> the area where the best missiles of Iran were stationed. As soon as >>>>> more than half of the overt missile launchers on the west side of >>>>> Iran were hit, these better and newer and more powerful missiles in >>>>> the East were deployed and quickly brought Israel to its knees. >>>>> >>>>> Bagram base, which got suddenly popular and wanted by Trump, was to >>>>> get American jets even closer to Iran. It won't happen! Iran had >>>>> already taken full account of that in her preparations months back. >>>>> But Americans thought the base in Tajikestan could do it for them >>>>> instead. Not anymore. Iran's surveillance capabilities aren't like >>>>> how it was last June. >>>>> >>>>> Nothing is being assumed in this war. Every scenario is dealt with. >>>>> Even right now, there's not an hour that much is not getting done, >>>>> arranged or tested, or rearranged according to what USA's forces >>>>> are doing, every thing is in motion. 24x7. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It is worth mentioning just how those Eastern missiles defeated >>>> Israel. This was excellent war planning. Best in the world. Perhaps >>>> best in most parts of history as well. It was extremely realistic >>>> and efficient, therefore the simplest that could be devised. And >>>> sure enough within just a few days it trapped and defeated Israel. >>>> >>>> To explain the plan, I have to point to the vital fact that >>>> susceptibilities and/or "pain" itself exists in different ways from >>>> nation to nation. War means to inflict maximum pain and receive >>>> minimum pain. Israel only has three ports, three lifelines. Eylat, >>>> which was done with by Hoothies, the other two, Haifa and Ashdod. >>>> The missiles from eastern Iran simply targeted those two ports and >>>> rendered them totally useless. Israel was finished as soon as it was >>>> done. Nothing could come into Israel anymore. The concept of >>>> "import" turned into smoke and went up. >>>> >>>> Iran is not Israel. She didn't need to hit Israeli ships. Didn't >>>> need to hit Israeli military bases. Didn't need to blow Netanyahu >>>> and his team in the hole they were in. None of that mattered. Iran >>>> didn't need to do any of that. With relatively just a few of the >>>> best missiles Iran annihilated the concept of "import" in Israel. >>>> The job to make these missiles successful was already done by the >>>> ones on the western parts of Iran. The latter had used up Israel's >>>> air defenses and had made the road open for the missiles in East Iran. >>>> >>>> A plan was devised that wins for _sure_; not one that creates hoopla. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> But right now the matter of war with USA is the issue for Iran. This >>> "fake" war. Israel has learned its lessons. I don't think they'll >>> participate in it in any major way. And to this day, their ports have >>> not been brought up back to the life they should. They are still >>> behind in repairing Iran's hits; while Iran is now at least 10 times >>> more powerful and war-ready than in June of 2025. >>> >>> So the issue is the war with USA. >>> >>> I'm not a war analyzer or anything like that. I am a physicist. I can >>> think in a healthy way, and I can do it almost all by myself. I don't >>> need feedback from this and that or "Fox News" crap or what vile >>> Israelis are churning out or even what the American "think tanks" are >>> saying. A physicist is trained in thinking for himself. And this >>> thinking all by itself can open a few quite realistic scenes in fact, >>> because it makes use of only the main elements, not the ones >>> peripheral to the process. >>> >>> A physicist can do that because he is an expert in "approximation". >>> He knows what to throw away to gain what that's essential. >>> >>> So let's look at what USA has done in this war with Iran. Americans >>> always plan wars in a ... I'd say combinatorial way. That's for sure. >>> One doesn't get a hint of what else they've employed in their plans. >>> But a close look (or rather the opposite (!) of it), which can in >>> this case be in fact a general look, gives me this: They've started >>> to place one and the same sanction against Iran over and over. >>> Multiple times! Because they need to tell the American Sheep that, >>> "Here... see for yourself... we sanctioned this and that for Iran and >>> increased the pressure on them". The Sheep of course does not know >>> that nothing new has been done, and naturally believes that what was >>> done increased the pressure on Iran. >>> >>> For me, what this repeating points at, is, that the probability is >>> now at the maximum, that number of elements in the combinational war >>> they have planned has reached its maximum. It strongly indicates >>> nothing new and _real_ will be added to the plans they already have. >>> >>> This is one fact to consider for Iran to plan for. >>> >>> Another fact is that any ship and carrier they send to this war will >>> get destroyed by Iran with certainty. All of them have to come close >>> enough to be effective, and all of them will get sunk. This limits >>> the number of ships USA can deploy because it would get extremely >>> expensive. Trump hates extremely expensive wars. It is just not in >>> his genes. So if a war begins, this would not be a war in which >>> Americans would keep sending more and more ships to it like they did >>> in the Atlantic during WWII. >>> >>> And there's no other way for the USA to get close enough to Iran. All >>> USA's land bases that are close enough to be effective, >>> _within_hours_, will get destroyed or rendered useless. >>> >>> American forces can certainly hit Khark's oil-exporting ports in the >>> Persian Gulf if they choose so. If they do, every oil industry in the >>> entire region will go up in flames by Iran (even by Americans >>> themselves!), so the war will get reduced the "fake" one that I >>> explained in the first post of this blog. It can happen! And I'm all >>> for it. And Iranians should in fact welcome it. But only if Americans >>> limit the war to the destruction of oil industries of the region. >>> >>> If Americans hit mainland Iran, especially if they hit targets in >>> Iran that are only of interest for the Israelis, the war continues to >>> spread to Israel and destruction of the American business assets in >>> the Emarat. So if Trump really keen to do it then so be it. The cost >>> of war will skyrocket and will involve destruction of huge American >>> businesses. Almost as if New York City itself has been destroyed. So >>> I give it only little probability that war will continue to that end. >>> But it can happen! Iran should be ready for it. >>> >>> China does not want this war. Any scenario of it. Arabs living off of >>> oil do not want it. Again any scenario of it. They will get hurt bad >>> either way. >>> >>> So I give this war with USA a 20% chance to begin. 80% chance for no >>> war. >>> >>> What happens in a no-war situation? Things will certainly not stay as >>> before. Trump needs a win very bad, otherwise the rest of his term >>> he'll reduce to serve the Democrats' demands. He'll become another >>> Biden. >>> >>> So something must change that will look like a win for Trump and a >>> win for Iran. Iran will not walk out of it as the loser. >>> >>> The most probable scenario that will take place is the one I pointed >>> at before. The one that leaked out by Iranians a couple of days back. >>> One in which some sort of arrangements will take place between USA >>> and Iran that involves U.S. businesses' investing in a few sectors >>> inside Iran, and some of the sanctions removed, with everything else >>> intact. That would be a win-win for both sides. >>> >>> Note that Iran is very rich in highly educated workforce demanding >>> very little paychecks. Iran has endless amounts of precious minerals >>> to tap in. Iran has almost endless gas and oil. Iran has excellent >>> scientists and engineers. Iran can benefit U.S. businesses immensely. >>> A gazillion times more than this abysmal, pathetic "Israel" sitting >>> there crying and killing all the time, making people of the world >>> spit into the Americans' faces. >>> >>> These are important facts to bargain with :-) >>> >>> There will be no war. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> Yes, there will be no war. But not just because of what Iran can offer >> to American businesses in a normalized relations, no sanctions, and >> none of those idiotic "conditions" met, but also because of what Iran >> can do in the case of war.. >> >> So in fact both cases support the no-war outcome. I'm certain of it. >> Iranians want you to tell Trump they don't get fooled by his sorry >> bullshit. Neither Israelis nor the Americans are in a position to >> threaten Iran in any form of war. The threat is on you! >> >> How difficult is it to see this? The core of the mistake you fucked up >> people are making is that throwing USA at Iran will weaken Iran more >> than it will weaken Israel. This is not so. This kind of mistakes are >> the ones that never allowed Jews to form a healthy country. The war >> will be a long one and Iranians are ready to face it! Do you know what >> it means?.. >> >> Iran will not be the country that'll go down the drain. She'll tough >> it out. But you Israelis will not. Soon, say in 5 years or so, nobody >> in the world would want to live in Israel. How can you handle that? >> Don't you need people to be living there, working there, to form a >> nation and a country there? >> >> Hehe :) >> >> It's like I'm talking to kids. >> >> Even China and Russia are there to make sure it will be so. But Iran >> can do you in without them. China wants the strait stay open. Russia, >> in a much more strategic way, wants to put a leash on these Zionist >> animals in this U.S. administration, the ridicule of the world, >> running around trying to "control" others. >> >> I in fact think Iran will get stronger and stronger as this long war >> goes on. That's why I'm looking forward to it, and I'm not the only >> one. What of Israel will still be there when this war ends? Why would >> it "end" to begin with? The fact that it would one day "end", itself, >> means there will be no Israel left to war with or push USA farther >> against Iran. No? Iran will stay Iran! It isn't the first time for her >> at all. >> >> And USA?.. Hehe :) The war will not end at a state of "normalized >> relations." That option you'll only find in your pasts. I really think >> You're wrong thinking otherwise. It will end when Israel is no more, >> and USA grabs its sorry ass and limps away back where it came from. >> Just like after Vietnam and Afghanestan. Only worse. If you think you >> can handle that go ahead. Don't pretend you can threaten Iranians in >> any way. >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Interesting: > > Many news sources have it that today Witkoff said Trump asked him this > morning why Iran doesn't give up despite presence of such other drastic > scenarios :) > > Evidently this same question was bugging Witkoff himself enough to > mention that to the Fox News. > > Somebody give both of them the answer please. Here's the answer: > > "Because Iranians have something in them that a New Yorker thug > doesn't." > > So these thugs will have to choose the option of paying the full price > regardless. Thugs don't like that, cause money is their blood. So there > won't be any war. > > > > One of Iran's main militia commanders said today: "Presence of American armada in the region is advertorial." :-))) Hahhahhahhahh :-)) Bull's eye baby :-)
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A Fake War With Iran Getting Close :-) Taskfreak <taskfreak@gmail.com> - 2026-01-28 21:34 -0600
Re: A Fake War With Iran Getting Close :-) Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-01-29 06:04 +0000
Re: A Fake War With Iran Getting Close :-) Taskfreak <taskfreak@gmail.com> - 2026-01-29 12:58 -0600
Re: A Fake War With Iran Getting Close :-) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-01-30 01:51 +0100
Re: A Fake War With Iran Getting Close :-) Taskfreak <taskfreak@gmail.com> - 2026-01-30 17:38 -0600
Re: A Fake War With Iran Getting Close :-) Taskfreak <taskfreak@gmail.com> - 2026-01-30 21:04 -0600
Re: A Fake War With Iran Getting Close :-) Taskfreak <taskfreak@gmail.com> - 2026-01-31 15:20 -0600
Re: A Fake War With Iran Getting Close :-) Taskfreak <taskfreak@gmail.com> - 2026-01-31 16:51 -0600
Re: A Fake War With Iran Getting Close :-) Taskfreak <taskfreak@gmail.com> - 2026-02-01 21:50 -0600
Re: A Fake War With Iran Getting Close :-) Taskfreak <taskfreak@gmail.com> - 2026-02-06 13:29 -0600
Re: A Fake War With Iran Getting Close :-) Taskfreak <taskfreak@gmail.com> - 2026-02-10 13:53 -0600
Re: A Fake War With Iran Getting Close :-) Taskfreak <taskfreak@gmail.com> - 2026-02-12 00:39 -0600
Re: A Fake War With Iran Getting Close :-) Taskfreak <taskfreak@gmail.com> - 2026-02-15 21:51 -0600
Re: A Fake War With Iran Getting Close :-) Taskfreak <taskfreak@gmail.com> - 2026-02-15 22:43 -0600
Re: A Fake War With Iran Getting Close :-) Taskfreak <taskfreak@gmail.com> - 2026-02-17 17:15 -0600
Re: A Fake War With Iran Getting Close :-) Taskfreak <taskfreak@gmail.com> - 2026-02-17 21:48 -0600
Re: A Fake War With Iran Getting Close :-) Taskfreak <taskfreak@gmail.com> - 2026-02-18 12:44 -0600
Re: A Fake War With Iran Getting Close :-) Taskfreak <taskfreak@gmail.com> - 2026-02-18 13:58 -0600
Re: A Fake War With Iran Getting Close :-) Taskfreak <taskfreak@gmail.com> - 2026-02-20 00:03 -0600
Re: A Fake War With Iran Getting Close :-) Taskfreak <taskfreak@gmail.com> - 2026-02-22 10:52 -0600
Re: A Fake War With Iran Getting Close :-) Taskfreak <taskfreak@gmail.com> - 2026-02-22 11:31 -0600
Re: A Fake War With Iran Getting Close :-) Taskfreak <taskfreak@gmail.com> - 2026-02-24 11:56 -0600
Re: A Fake War With Iran Getting Close :-) Taskfreak <taskfreak@gmail.com> - 2026-02-24 12:28 -0600
Re: A Fake War With Iran Getting Close :-) Taskfreak <taskfreak@gmail.com> - 2026-02-25 10:32 -0600
Re: A Fake War With Iran Getting Close :-) Taskfreak <taskfreak@gmail.com> - 2026-02-26 16:18 -0600
Re: A Fake War With Iran Getting Close :-) Taskfreak <taskfreak@gmail.com> - 2026-03-01 21:07 -0600
Re: A Fake War With Iran Getting Close :-) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-01-31 12:28 +0100
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