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Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ...

From Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org>
Newsgroups ger.ct
Subject Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ...
Date 2025-12-07 17:41 +0000
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Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> wrote:
> On 12/7/25 13:09, Goetz Schultz wrote:
>> On 07/12/2025 11:20, Dietz Proepper wrote:
>>> Bernd Ohm <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Etwas bessere Zusammenfassung:
>>>> 
>>>> "Durch die heutige weite Verbreitung von LLMs wie ChatGPT von
>>>> OpenAI nutzen Menschen und Unternehmen diese Systeme täglich.
>>>> Wie jedes andere Werkzeug hat auch dieses seine Vor- und Nachteile.
>>>> Diese Studie untersucht die kognitiven Kosten der Nutzung eines
>>>> LLM im Kontext des Verfassens eines Essays."
>>> 
>>> Oh, "llm erzeugt brain rot" ist die ganz kurze Variante.
>>> 
>> 
>> Wenn man mit offenen Augen durch's Leben geht sollte das doch nicht 
>> überraschen. You don't use it, you lose it. Gut das man da jetzt für die 
>> Erkenntnis nochmal Geld hinlegt. Erinnert mich an gewisse Politiker die 
>> ein High Court brauchen um offensichtliche Biologische Fakten zu erkennen.
>> 
>> Das Problem wird auch andere Felder betreffen, nicht nur Essays 
>> schreiben.
> 
> Es gibt schon Programmierer die von KI zur Unterstützung beim 
> Programmieren wieder Abstand nehmen weil ihnen aufgefallen ist, daß das 
> auf Kosten der eigenen Fähigkeiten geht.
> 
>  Gerrit
> 
> 
> 

Das ist sicher richtig. Aber es wird ihr Problem ebenso sicher nicht lösen.
Die KI Konkurrenz ist da und steht erst am Anfang der Entwicklung.
Die Arbeitsmarktentwicklung für ITler scheint das schon abzubilden. 

-- 
please forgive my iPhone typos

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Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-12-07 11:37 +0100
  Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Bernd Ohm <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 11:57 +0100
    Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Peter McD <peter.posts@gmx.net> - 2025-12-07 12:01 +0100
    Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-12-07 12:20 +0100
      Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1230@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-12-07 12:09 +0000
        Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-12-07 13:53 +0100
          Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1230@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-12-07 13:23 +0000
            Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-12-07 16:42 +0100
              Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1230@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-12-07 16:15 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-12-07 22:25 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1230@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-12-07 22:11 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-12-08 02:10 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1230@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-12-08 09:41 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-08 09:53 +0000
        Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2025-12-07 18:27 +0100
          Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-12-07 17:41 +0000
            Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2025-12-07 19:19 +0100
              Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-12-07 18:46 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2025-12-07 20:58 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-12-07 22:31 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Ulrich D i e z <ud.usenetcorrespondence@web.de> - 2025-12-08 14:40 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-12-08 13:49 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-12-08 20:28 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2025-12-08 20:40 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gunter Kühne <kuehne-g@freenet.de> - 2025-12-09 11:33 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2025-12-09 19:23 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Ulrich D i e z <ud.usenetcorrespondence@web.de> - 2025-12-10 02:28 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2025-12-08 19:14 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-12-09 13:51 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Ulrich D i e z <ud.usenetcorrespondence@web.de> - 2025-12-10 02:19 +0100
              Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-12-07 22:29 +0100
            Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-12-07 22:27 +0100
          Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-07 19:03 +0100
            Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2025-12-07 20:57 +0100
              Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-12-07 21:12 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1230@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-12-07 20:21 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-12-07 20:40 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-12-07 21:56 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1230@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-12-07 21:11 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-12-07 21:17 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1230@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-12-07 22:15 +0000
                Dr. ChatGPT: digital vor ambulant vor stationär Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-12-08 06:56 +0000
                Re: Dr. ChatGPT: digital vor ambulant vor stationär Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1230@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-12-08 09:52 +0000
                Re: Dr. ChatGPT: digital vor ambulant vor stationär Ulrich D i e z <ud.usenetcorrespondence@web.de> - 2025-12-08 15:32 +0100
                Re: Dr. ChatGPT: digital vor ambulant vor stationär Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-12-08 20:38 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2025-12-07 21:59 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Peter McD <peter.posts@gmx.net> - 2025-12-08 10:41 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-08 08:33 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2025-12-08 09:28 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-08 10:41 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2025-12-08 10:18 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-08 15:21 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-12-08 14:28 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-08 15:39 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-12-08 20:40 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-12-08 19:51 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2025-12-08 19:13 +0000
              Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2025-12-07 21:41 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-12-07 21:56 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-08 08:35 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-12-07 22:34 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2025-12-07 23:03 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-12-08 10:22 +0100
              Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-08 08:32 +0100
            Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-12-07 22:33 +0100
            Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Walter Brill <WalterBrill@t-online.de> - 2025-12-08 14:05 +0100
              Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-08 15:31 +0100
          Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-12-07 22:26 +0100
    Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2025-12-08 07:15 +0100
      Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-12-08 06:41 +0000
        Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:57 +0100
          Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2025-12-08 19:19 +0100
            Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2025-12-09 07:21 +0100
              Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2025-12-09 11:43 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2025-12-09 12:29 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2025-12-09 12:42 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2025-12-10 07:52 +0100
        Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-08 10:30 +0100
      Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2025-12-08 19:16 +0100
        Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2025-12-08 19:28 +0100
          Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2025-12-08 19:37 +0100
            Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2025-12-08 19:55 +0100
              Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2025-12-08 20:05 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2025-12-08 20:17 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2025-12-08 20:29 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2025-12-08 20:49 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2025-12-08 19:22 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2025-12-08 20:32 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2025-12-08 20:54 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2025-12-08 20:57 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Peter McD <peter.posts@gmx.net> - 2025-12-09 11:08 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-09 12:59 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Ulrich D i e z <ud.usenetcorrespondence@web.de> - 2025-12-10 12:22 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-10 13:02 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1230@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-12-10 12:21 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-10 13:34 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-12-10 12:48 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Carlo XYZ <carloxyz@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 14:30 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-10 14:56 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-12-10 15:01 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-10 18:36 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Ulrich D i e z <ud.usenetcorrespondence@web.de> - 2025-12-10 16:35 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-10 19:02 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-10 19:08 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Walter Brill <WalterBrill@t-online.de> - 2025-12-11 13:15 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-10 19:32 +0100
          Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1230@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-12-08 18:42 +0000
            Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2025-12-08 19:57 +0100
              Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2025-12-08 20:17 +0100
              Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1230@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-12-08 21:59 +0000
        Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2025-12-09 07:28 +0100
          Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2025-12-09 10:28 +0000
            Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2025-12-09 12:32 +0100
            Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-09 13:27 +0100
          Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2025-12-09 11:42 +0100
            Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2025-12-09 12:31 +0100
            Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-09 13:32 +0100
              Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2025-12-09 13:43 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-09 14:51 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2025-12-09 16:14 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-09 17:34 +0100
              Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Walter Brill <WalterBrill@t-online.de> - 2025-12-11 13:18 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-11 22:10 +0100
            Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2025-12-09 19:28 +0100
              Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-10 09:59 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-12-10 11:32 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2025-12-10 11:36 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1230@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-12-10 12:04 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-10 13:17 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Walter Brill <WalterBrill@t-online.de> - 2025-12-11 13:23 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-12-11 13:08 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2025-12-11 17:04 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-11 22:26 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2025-12-10 19:16 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-10 20:56 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2025-12-10 21:19 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-10 22:09 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-11 07:25 +0000
          Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Ulrich D i e z <ud.usenetcorrespondence@web.de> - 2025-12-10 17:58 +0100
        Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-12-09 13:56 +0100
          Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2025-12-10 17:14 +0100

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