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Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ...

From Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de>
Newsgroups ger.ct
Subject Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ...
Date 2025-12-08 19:57 +0100
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Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1230@goetz.co.uk> writes:

> On 08/12/2025 18:28, Michael Bode wrote:
>> Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> writes:
>> 
>>> Das gibt es nur so ein zwei Probleme... Ein Taschenrechner ist billig
>>> und funktioniert ohne Netzwerkzugriff, ja teilweise sogar ohne
>>> Batterien. Ausserdem ist er so klein, daß er eben in die Tasche
>>> passt. Ein LLM ist so ziemlich genau das Gegenteil.
>> Beim Taschenrechner kam früher auch die Frage "und was machst du,
>> wenn
>> die Batterie alle ist?"
>> 
> Nimm einen mit  'nem Solarmodul. Sind eigentlich jetzt gängig.

Ja, und nachts im Winter in Lappland?

>>> Dazu kommt noch, auch wenn man einen Taschenrechner benutzt braucht
>>> man immer noch Kenntnisse im Rechnen. Sonst kann man nicht erkennen,
>>> ob das Ergebnis überhaupt korrekt sein kann.
>> Und beim LLM braucht man immer noch seinen Verstand, sonst kann man
>> nicht erkennen, ob einem das Ding kompletten Blödsinn schön formuliert
>> auftischt.
>
> Meinst Du Verstand + Grundverständnis? Wenn Du keinen Dunst von der
> Materie hast, also ich meine von dem was Du LLM befragst, kann Dir das
> passieren. Du weisst es eben nicht besser.

Das sollte einem dann schon der Verstand sagen, so er denn vorhanden ist.

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Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-12-07 11:37 +0100
  Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Bernd Ohm <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 11:57 +0100
    Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Peter McD <peter.posts@gmx.net> - 2025-12-07 12:01 +0100
    Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-12-07 12:20 +0100
      Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1230@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-12-07 12:09 +0000
        Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-12-07 13:53 +0100
          Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1230@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-12-07 13:23 +0000
            Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-12-07 16:42 +0100
              Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1230@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-12-07 16:15 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-12-07 22:25 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1230@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-12-07 22:11 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-12-08 02:10 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1230@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-12-08 09:41 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-08 09:53 +0000
        Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2025-12-07 18:27 +0100
          Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-12-07 17:41 +0000
            Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2025-12-07 19:19 +0100
              Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-12-07 18:46 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2025-12-07 20:58 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-12-07 22:31 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Ulrich D i e z <ud.usenetcorrespondence@web.de> - 2025-12-08 14:40 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-12-08 13:49 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-12-08 20:28 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2025-12-08 20:40 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gunter Kühne <kuehne-g@freenet.de> - 2025-12-09 11:33 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2025-12-09 19:23 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Ulrich D i e z <ud.usenetcorrespondence@web.de> - 2025-12-10 02:28 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2025-12-08 19:14 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-12-09 13:51 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Ulrich D i e z <ud.usenetcorrespondence@web.de> - 2025-12-10 02:19 +0100
              Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-12-07 22:29 +0100
            Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-12-07 22:27 +0100
          Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-07 19:03 +0100
            Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2025-12-07 20:57 +0100
              Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-12-07 21:12 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1230@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-12-07 20:21 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-12-07 20:40 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-12-07 21:56 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1230@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-12-07 21:11 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-12-07 21:17 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1230@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-12-07 22:15 +0000
                Dr. ChatGPT: digital vor ambulant vor stationär Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-12-08 06:56 +0000
                Re: Dr. ChatGPT: digital vor ambulant vor stationär Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1230@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-12-08 09:52 +0000
                Re: Dr. ChatGPT: digital vor ambulant vor stationär Ulrich D i e z <ud.usenetcorrespondence@web.de> - 2025-12-08 15:32 +0100
                Re: Dr. ChatGPT: digital vor ambulant vor stationär Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-12-08 20:38 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2025-12-07 21:59 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Peter McD <peter.posts@gmx.net> - 2025-12-08 10:41 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-08 08:33 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2025-12-08 09:28 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-08 10:41 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2025-12-08 10:18 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-08 15:21 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-12-08 14:28 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-08 15:39 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-12-08 20:40 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-12-08 19:51 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2025-12-08 19:13 +0000
              Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2025-12-07 21:41 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-12-07 21:56 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-08 08:35 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-12-07 22:34 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2025-12-07 23:03 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-12-08 10:22 +0100
              Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-08 08:32 +0100
            Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-12-07 22:33 +0100
            Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Walter Brill <WalterBrill@t-online.de> - 2025-12-08 14:05 +0100
              Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-08 15:31 +0100
          Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-12-07 22:26 +0100
    Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2025-12-08 07:15 +0100
      Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-12-08 06:41 +0000
        Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:57 +0100
          Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2025-12-08 19:19 +0100
            Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2025-12-09 07:21 +0100
              Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2025-12-09 11:43 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2025-12-09 12:29 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2025-12-09 12:42 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2025-12-10 07:52 +0100
        Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-08 10:30 +0100
      Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2025-12-08 19:16 +0100
        Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2025-12-08 19:28 +0100
          Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2025-12-08 19:37 +0100
            Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2025-12-08 19:55 +0100
              Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2025-12-08 20:05 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2025-12-08 20:17 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2025-12-08 20:29 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2025-12-08 20:49 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2025-12-08 19:22 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2025-12-08 20:32 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2025-12-08 20:54 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2025-12-08 20:57 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Peter McD <peter.posts@gmx.net> - 2025-12-09 11:08 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-09 12:59 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Ulrich D i e z <ud.usenetcorrespondence@web.de> - 2025-12-10 12:22 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-10 13:02 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1230@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-12-10 12:21 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-10 13:34 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-12-10 12:48 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Carlo XYZ <carloxyz@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 14:30 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-10 14:56 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-12-10 15:01 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-10 18:36 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Ulrich D i e z <ud.usenetcorrespondence@web.de> - 2025-12-10 16:35 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-10 19:02 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-10 19:08 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Walter Brill <WalterBrill@t-online.de> - 2025-12-11 13:15 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-10 19:32 +0100
          Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1230@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-12-08 18:42 +0000
            Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2025-12-08 19:57 +0100
              Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2025-12-08 20:17 +0100
              Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1230@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-12-08 21:59 +0000
        Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2025-12-09 07:28 +0100
          Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2025-12-09 10:28 +0000
            Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2025-12-09 12:32 +0100
            Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-09 13:27 +0100
          Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2025-12-09 11:42 +0100
            Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2025-12-09 12:31 +0100
            Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-09 13:32 +0100
              Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2025-12-09 13:43 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-09 14:51 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2025-12-09 16:14 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-09 17:34 +0100
              Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Walter Brill <WalterBrill@t-online.de> - 2025-12-11 13:18 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-11 22:10 +0100
            Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2025-12-09 19:28 +0100
              Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-10 09:59 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-12-10 11:32 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2025-12-10 11:36 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1230@goetz.co.uk> - 2025-12-10 12:04 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-10 13:17 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Walter Brill <WalterBrill@t-online.de> - 2025-12-11 13:23 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2025-12-11 13:08 +0000
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2025-12-11 17:04 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-11 22:26 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2025-12-10 19:16 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-10 20:56 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2025-12-10 21:19 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2025-12-10 22:09 +0100
                Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Ulf Kutzner <user2991@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-11 07:25 +0000
          Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Ulrich D i e z <ud.usenetcorrespondence@web.de> - 2025-12-10 17:58 +0100
        Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-12-09 13:56 +0100
          Re: Your Brain on ChatGPT ... Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2025-12-10 17:14 +0100

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