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Re: How teach logic? [The Jokes] (Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things)

From "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.theory, comp.ai.philosophy, comp.lang.prolog
Subject Re: How teach logic? [The Jokes] (Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things)
Date 2025-11-18 15:15 -0800
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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On 11/18/2025 2:02 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 11/18/2025 3:46 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
> <big snip>
> 
> *I remember you in the Prolog Group*
> *I remember you in the Prolog Group*
> *I remember you in the Prolog Group*
> 
> The Liar Paradox formalized in the Prolog Programming language
> 
> This sentence is not true.
> It is not true about what?
> It is not true about being not true.
> It is not true about being not true about what?
> It is not true about being not true about being not true.
> Oh I see you are stuck in a loop!
[...]

DD says, I can halt, or not halt... That is 100% true about DD. So, lets 
explore both paths, and fin the sim when they are _both_ hit. Actually, 
the following models your DD:
____________________________
1 HOME
5 PRINT "ct_dr_fuzz lol. ;^)"
6 P0 = 0
7 P1 = 0

10 REM Fuzzer... ;^)
20 A$ = "NOPE!"
30 IF RND(1) < .5 THEN A$ = "YES"

100 REM INPUT "Shall DD halt or not? " ; A$
110 PRINT "Shall DD halt or not? " ; A$
200 IF A$ = "YES" GOTO 666
300 P0 = P0 + 1
400 IF P0 > 0 AND P1 > 0 GOTO 1000
500 GOTO 10

666 PRINT "OK!"
667 P1 = P1 + 1
700 PRINT "NON_HALT P0 = "; P0
710 PRINT "HALT P1 = "; P1
720 IF P0 > 0 AND P1 > 0 GOTO 1000
730 PRINT "ALL PATHS FAILED TO BE HIT!"
740 GOTO 10


1000
1010 PRINT "FIN... All paths hit."
1020 PRINT "NON_HALT P0 = "; P0
1030 PRINT "HALT P1 = "; P1
____________________________

Fair enough?

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          How teach logic? [The Jokes] (Re: People that have a very shallow understanding of these things) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-11-18 22:46 +0100
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            Re: Stop responding to Olcott by December 2025: who is in? [t - 0] olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-12-02 09:33 -0600
            Re: Stop responding to Olcott by December 2025: who is in? [t - 0] Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-12-02 16:04 +0000
              Olcott is provably correct --- no one can correctly refute this olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-12-03 19:47 -0600
            The quality of reviewers on USENET olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-12-03 18:11 -0600
            Olcott is provably correct --- no one can correctly refute this olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-12-03 19:50 -0600
        Olcott is provably correct --- no one can correct refute this olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-12-03 19:44 -0600
        Re: Stop responding to Olcott by December 2025: who is in? [t - 0] "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-12-05 02:45 -0800
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  Re: Stop responding to Olcott by December 2025: who is in? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-11-27 00:03 -0800
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      Re: Stop responding to Olcott by December 2025: who is in? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-11-27 00:29 -0800
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