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| From | Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | news.groups.proposals |
| Subject | Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc |
| Date | 2025-10-22 09:19 -0400 |
| Organization | BWH Usenet Archive (https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com) |
| Message-ID | <10dalij$ldp$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> (permalink) |
| References | <10cb4ks$37p$1@reader2.panix.com> <68f5c582$1@news.ausics.net> <20251020211733.58f85f24@ryz.dorfdsl.de> <68f894c3$1@news.ausics.net> |
On Oct 22, 2025 at 4:57:24 AM CDT, "noel" <deletethis@invalid.lan> wrote: > again, so what? you are intent on killing all usenet discussions unless > they happened wiuth in past 3 hours or something, hell marco, you do not > even run a usenet server yet you want to make decisions for us, and we've > shown you in the past to, because ES has no articles in X period of time, > consider the groups dead, Kev I think did so as well, we've shown our > server, and by extension probably Jesse, Alex, Paul, Steve, Giga and > others have posts in it years later than you see, and IIRC by your own > admission on at least one of them, they were active, and not spam. Neither of the groups being discussed have relevant articles in the last 10+ years on my server. I do not see benefit keeping unused groups. Usenet was not intended to be an archive of articles that lasts forever. Archiving Usenet is a decision, and if you're looking for archives, there are plenty these days. For the health and relevancy of Usenet, I support removing unused groups. I've been around long enough and still don't always know where to post about a topic I haven't discussed on Usenet before. If one looks for "unix" against my active file there are 269 groups, "linux" has 455. How does a new/naive Usenet user determine the most appropriate group(s)? Judging by article count can be deceiving if the server archives. There may be over 1,000,000 articles making the group appear active at first glance, but upon inspection there hasn't been discussion about that topic for over 10 years. That's discouraging to a new user and could lead to them giving up Usenet quickly. Archives have benefits but that doesn't mean that all of Usenet should be an archive. If topics are no longer being discussed on Usenet, why keep the groups around? Looking back through Usenet history, there certainly wasn't an issue getting groups created when enough users were interested in a topic. Should Usenet see a revival and the needs of the network change I believe we'll be able to react appropriately. Usenet has shrank dramatically, whether we like it or not. In September 2025, there were 780 total hosts reported by 73 participating servers in the top1000 stats. If you take out duplicate hosts per site and FIDO nodes it's closer to 200 sites. In 2005 the top1000 routinely reported over 6,500 hosts seen by 356 participating servers. In Usenet's current state, in my opinion, it is appropriate to remove unused groups.
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RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Usenet Big-8 Management Board <board@big-8.org> - 2025-10-10 10:22 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-10-10 19:22 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-11 14:40 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-10-12 11:30 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2025-10-12 11:29 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-12 11:37 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2025-10-13 15:59 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2025-10-14 01:31 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Julien ÉLIE <iulius@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid> - 2025-10-14 16:59 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-15 08:51 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-10-16 09:38 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-10-16 09:38 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Tristan Miller <tmiller@big-8.org> - 2025-10-16 12:43 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2025-10-20 13:23 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-20 15:17 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Winston <wbe@UBEBLOCK.psr.com.invalid> - 2025-10-21 10:04 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2025-10-22 05:57 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> - 2025-10-22 09:19 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-22 11:46 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-10-23 11:07 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2025-10-24 04:20 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-24 04:26 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2025-10-25 11:36 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-25 14:23 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc groenveld@acm.org (John D Groenveld) - 2025-10-24 10:51 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2025-10-25 11:37 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-25 14:12 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-10-26 05:05 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2025-10-22 17:01 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> - 2025-10-23 11:07 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Julien ÉLIE <iulius@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid> - 2025-10-25 11:37 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Julien ÉLIE <iulius@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid> - 2025-10-26 21:03 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2025-10-15 09:07 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Tristan Miller <tmiller@big-8.org> - 2025-10-16 12:14 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-16 14:07 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2025-10-20 13:22 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-20 15:23 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2025-10-22 05:57 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Tristan Miller <tmiller@big-8.org> - 2025-10-21 12:08 -0400
Re: Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc ReK2 Hispagatos <rek2@usenet_reborn.tui> - 2025-10-15 14:26 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc groenveld@acm.org (John D Groenveld) - 2025-10-16 09:38 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-16 14:12 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc groenveld@acm.org (John D Groenveld) - 2025-10-16 23:43 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-16 14:11 -0400
Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Tristan Miller <tmiller@big-8.org> - 2025-10-16 12:35 -0400
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