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Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc

From Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de>
Newsgroups news.groups.proposals
Subject Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc
Date 2025-10-20 15:17 -0400
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <20251020211733.58f85f24@ryz.dorfdsl.de> (permalink)
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On 20.10.2025 13:23 Uhr noel wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 08:51:31 -0400, Marco Moock wrote:
> 
> > there need to be at least some articles per
> > year in a group. Otherwise the most likely don't subscribe to that.
> >  
> 
> 
> Where is your evidence, links to multiple repuatable sources please, 
> since you made that statement, you surely must have them.

It is common sense. If a place is empty and stays empty for a while,
people usually unsubscribe.

I haven't got back one reply from someone who was lurking there and
wants to keep the group. Not a single one.

Although, sometimes new people arrive (have a look at
eternal-september.newusers) and ask for groups where real discussion
happens - because the group list is full of empty groups, that are
useless for people who are interested in current discussions.

> > Long-time readers may also unsubscribe because of no traffic for
> > years. 
> 
> Again, please supply evidence.

I assume various people subscribed to those groups in the past to read
and post there. I haven't seen a reply from one of those, so the
interest in those groups for current discussion is actually zero.

> >> > your desire to remove history  
> >> [...]  
> >> > several other free access text groups wont honour rmgroups  
> >>
> >> Sending rmgroup articles is not a synonym of removing history.  
> > 
> > History of groups is available at isc and the board of various
> > hierarchies also provide it.
> >   
> 
> We are talking history as in history not just of groups names but
> their articles, usenet in its entirety is an "archive" it just
> depends on how long $server_admin wants to allow it, usually this is
> a disk space decision, not because nobody posts to it.

And here we are again: Archiving servers shouldn't process rmgroup at
all.
In that case, why should admins of those servers care?

-- 
kind regards
Marco

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RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Usenet Big-8 Management Board <board@big-8.org> - 2025-10-10 10:22 -0400
  Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-10-10 19:22 -0400
    Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-11 14:40 -0400
      Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-10-12 11:30 -0400
    Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2025-10-12 11:29 -0400
      Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-12 11:37 -0400
        Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2025-10-13 15:59 -0400
          Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2025-10-14 01:31 -0400
          Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Julien ÉLIE <iulius@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid> - 2025-10-14 16:59 -0400
            Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-15 08:51 -0400
              Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-10-16 09:38 -0400
              Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-10-16 09:38 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Tristan Miller <tmiller@big-8.org> - 2025-10-16 12:43 -0400
              Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2025-10-20 13:23 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-20 15:17 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Winston <wbe@UBEBLOCK.psr.com.invalid> - 2025-10-21 10:04 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2025-10-22 05:57 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> - 2025-10-22 09:19 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-22 11:46 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-10-23 11:07 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2025-10-24 04:20 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-24 04:26 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2025-10-25 11:36 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-25 14:23 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc groenveld@acm.org (John D Groenveld) - 2025-10-24 10:51 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2025-10-25 11:37 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-25 14:12 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-10-26 05:05 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2025-10-22 17:01 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> - 2025-10-23 11:07 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Julien ÉLIE <iulius@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid> - 2025-10-25 11:37 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Julien ÉLIE <iulius@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid> - 2025-10-26 21:03 -0400
            Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2025-10-15 09:07 -0400
          Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Tristan Miller <tmiller@big-8.org> - 2025-10-16 12:14 -0400
            Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-16 14:07 -0400
            Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2025-10-20 13:22 -0400
              Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-20 15:23 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2025-10-22 05:57 -0400
              Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Tristan Miller <tmiller@big-8.org> - 2025-10-21 12:08 -0400
      Re: Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc ReK2 Hispagatos <rek2@usenet_reborn.tui> - 2025-10-15 14:26 -0400
        Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc groenveld@acm.org (John D Groenveld) - 2025-10-16 09:38 -0400
          Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-16 14:12 -0400
            Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc groenveld@acm.org (John D Groenveld) - 2025-10-16 23:43 -0400
        Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-16 14:11 -0400
    Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Tristan Miller <tmiller@big-8.org> - 2025-10-16 12:35 -0400

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