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Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc

From noel <deletethis@invalid.lan>
Newsgroups news.groups.proposals
Subject Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc
Date 2025-10-22 05:57 -0400
Organization Ausics - https://newsgroups.ausics.net
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2025 15:17:43 -0400, Marco Moock wrote:

> On 20.10.2025 13:23 Uhr noel wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 08:51:31 -0400, Marco Moock wrote:
>> 
>> > there need to be at least some articles per year in a group.
>> > Otherwise the most likely don't subscribe to that.
>> >  
>> >  
>> 
>> Where is your evidence, links to multiple repuatable sources please,
>> since you made that statement, you surely must have them.
> 
> It is common sense. If a place is empty and stays empty for a while,
> people usually unsubscribe.
> 

Common sense? So as I suspected you have NO evidence.

BTW there is no such thing as common sense, define it, go on, because 
what is to one may not be to another.


> I haven't got back one reply from someone who was lurking there and
> wants to keep the group. Not a single one.

over what period of time, 28 days or longer, and why would they respond 
tpo someone who posts these things,

> 
> Although, sometimes new people arrive (have a look at
> eternal-september.newusers) 

I do not use ES, nor do we peer with them. I know the support group is 
propogated out and only group I've got in my subs, no Idea why in the 
first place either.


>  because the group list is full of empty groups, that are
> useless for people who are interested in current discussions.

again, so what? you are intent on killing all usenet discussions unless 
they happened wiuth in past 3 hours or something, hell marco, you do not 
even run a usenet server yet you want to make decisions for us, and we've 
shown you in the past to, because ES has no articles in X period of time, 
consider the groups dead, Kev I think did so as well, we've shown our 
server, and by extension probably Jesse, Alex, Paul, Steve, Giga and 
others have posts in it years later than you see, and IIRC by your own 
admission on at least one of them, they were active, and not spam.

> 
>> > Long-time readers may also unsubscribe because of no traffic for
>> > years.
>> 
>> Again, please supply evidence.
> 
> I assume various people subscribed to those groups in the past to read
> and post there. I haven't seen a reply from one of those, so the
> interest in those groups for current discussion is actually zero.
> 

assumptions are the mother of all fuckups


>> >> > your desire to remove history
>> >> [...]
>> >> > several other free access text groups wont honour rmgroups
>> >>
>> >> Sending rmgroup articles is not a synonym of removing history.
>> > 
>> > History of groups is available at isc and the board of various
>> > hierarchies also provide it.
>> >   
>> >   
>> We are talking history as in history not just of groups names but their
>> articles, usenet in its entirety is an "archive" it just depends on how
>> long $server_admin wants to allow it, usually this is a disk space
>> decision, not because nobody posts to it.
> 
> And here we are again: Archiving servers shouldn't process rmgroup at
> all.
> In that case, why should admins of those servers care?

I dont call myself an archive server, I call it a usenet news server, 
like pretty much all other operators do.

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RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Usenet Big-8 Management Board <board@big-8.org> - 2025-10-10 10:22 -0400
  Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-10-10 19:22 -0400
    Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-11 14:40 -0400
      Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-10-12 11:30 -0400
    Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2025-10-12 11:29 -0400
      Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-12 11:37 -0400
        Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2025-10-13 15:59 -0400
          Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2025-10-14 01:31 -0400
          Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Julien ÉLIE <iulius@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid> - 2025-10-14 16:59 -0400
            Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-15 08:51 -0400
              Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-10-16 09:38 -0400
              Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-10-16 09:38 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Tristan Miller <tmiller@big-8.org> - 2025-10-16 12:43 -0400
              Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2025-10-20 13:23 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-20 15:17 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Winston <wbe@UBEBLOCK.psr.com.invalid> - 2025-10-21 10:04 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2025-10-22 05:57 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> - 2025-10-22 09:19 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-22 11:46 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-10-23 11:07 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2025-10-24 04:20 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-24 04:26 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2025-10-25 11:36 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-25 14:23 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc groenveld@acm.org (John D Groenveld) - 2025-10-24 10:51 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2025-10-25 11:37 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-25 14:12 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-10-26 05:05 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2025-10-22 17:01 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> - 2025-10-23 11:07 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Julien ÉLIE <iulius@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid> - 2025-10-25 11:37 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Julien ÉLIE <iulius@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid> - 2025-10-26 21:03 -0400
            Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2025-10-15 09:07 -0400
          Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Tristan Miller <tmiller@big-8.org> - 2025-10-16 12:14 -0400
            Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-16 14:07 -0400
            Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2025-10-20 13:22 -0400
              Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-20 15:23 -0400
                Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2025-10-22 05:57 -0400
              Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Tristan Miller <tmiller@big-8.org> - 2025-10-21 12:08 -0400
      Re: Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc ReK2 Hispagatos <rek2@usenet_reborn.tui> - 2025-10-15 14:26 -0400
        Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc groenveld@acm.org (John D Groenveld) - 2025-10-16 09:38 -0400
          Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-16 14:12 -0400
            Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc groenveld@acm.org (John D Groenveld) - 2025-10-16 23:43 -0400
        Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-10-16 14:11 -0400
    Re: RFD: Remove comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc and comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Tristan Miller <tmiller@big-8.org> - 2025-10-16 12:35 -0400

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