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| From | Marion <marion@facts.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of |
| Date | 2025-09-09 00:13 +0000 |
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On Mon, 8 Sep 2025 18:55:28 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :
>> Let's summarize, at a high level what "kinds" of bugfix updates exist.
>
> Firstly you need to stick with common nomenclature. The are updates for
> several different and overlapping reasons: fix security issues, fix bugs,
> add features, change functionality.
>
> Not everything is a bugfix.
Hi Chris,
Stop acting like Alan Baker saying nobody understands anything but he.
Just stop it.
It's clear you have absolutely no idea how either iOS or Android updates.
Trust me when I say I understand how Android & iOS update software.
Yet I have no confidence that you Apple trolls understand how they do.
For years, for example, you Apple trolls claimed iOS wasn't monolithic
when, everyone who understood anything about iOS knew that it was
monolithic. You Apple trolls were confused by something as simple as a
delta which Apple used (as does Microsoft) for updating individuals.
It was only in iOS 16 that the concept of a hotfix RSR existed in iOS.
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201224>
Which is likely why iOS is the most exploited mobile OS in history.
<https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog>
Also, you Apple trolls have never been able to understand that every OEM
vendor patches older releases every once in a while. Only on an Apple
newsgroup is a random patch to an older device considered extraordinary
proof that Apple randomly patches older devices (which every OEM does).
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222>
And, it took *years* for me to get it through your thick skulls, Chris,
that only Apple only fully supports only a single release at any one time.
<https://screenrant.com/apple-product-security-update-lifespan/>
Even today, after years of trying to get into your thick Apple troll skulls
how Android updates, you still have no clue that Android 10+ updates
monthly every single Android phone that is on the Internet, Chris.
<https://www.esper.io/blog/what-is-project-mainline>
You think Apple has any clue how to do something like that, Chris?
From: Marion <marion@facts.com>
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Why doesn't Apple forever update iOS core modules
on every iPhone on the Internet monthly?
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2025 17:11:03 -0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <1099sr4$9sk$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
> So an owner of an android phone is dependent on both Google/Android and the
> vendor to ensure that their device is fully up-to-date.
So is the owner of an Apple iPhone. Remember, Apple doesn't make most of
the hardware in the iPhone. So they depend on those same OEM vendors.
> Project mainline as described above only covers some parts of an Android
> devices' software ecosystem so if that is the only active update mechanism
> then a user is still potentially vulnerable due to deprecation in vendor
> and/or Android non-critical system components.
Yup. That's why the promised written length of support being better for
Google & Samsung flagships than for iOS is critically important, Chris.
*Apple finally confirms how long it will support iPhones*
*and it's less than Samsung and Google*
<https://www.androidauthority.com/iphone-software-support-commitment-3449135/>
> Admittedly there is ambiguity regarding what users can expect after full
> iOS support is dropped. For example, unsupported iphone X (launched 2017)
> phones stuck on iOs 16 still received 12 updates since the release of iOS
> 17.
>
> The other downside of the iOS model is that you don't know when or if
> updates are due. With Android there's at least a bulletin published every
> month even when there are no updates.
I have to give you credit, Chris, for looking this information up.
This is the first time, in the history of posting on this Apple newsgroup,
that anyone has shown any understanding of how the OS's update.
They update differently. In layers. With varying amount of support.
I give you credit for delving into the complexity that it inherently is.
Kudos to you.
Finally, an adult conversation is possible on this Apple newsgroup.
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The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-13 22:30 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-08-14 06:53 +0200
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 05:55 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-14 16:50 +0000
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Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 18:03 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-19 11:58 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-19 14:26 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-20 07:10 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-20 16:57 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-20 21:17 +0000
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Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-21 07:14 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-21 21:30 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-22 02:03 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-23 11:56 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-24 01:22 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-23 16:22 -0700
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-24 01:31 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-24 17:14 -0400
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-25 01:26 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-25 14:41 -0400
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Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-26 03:06 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 16:26 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-27 00:48 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-27 16:43 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-28 03:13 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-28 19:23 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-28 23:48 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-29 15:28 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-30 22:22 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-31 16:59 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-31 18:32 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-02 12:32 -0400
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-09-02 22:03 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-09-02 22:50 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-09-03 15:28 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-09-03 17:11 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-09-08 18:55 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-09-09 00:13 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-09-10 15:58 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 15:38 -0400
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-27 21:16 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-28 03:24 +0000
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Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-26 01:57 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-26 09:19 -0400
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-26 09:23 -0400
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-08-27 08:40 +1200
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-28 03:42 +0000
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-28 16:17 -0400
Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-28 16:19 -0400
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