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Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of

From Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Newsgroups misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of
Date 2025-09-03 15:28 +0000
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Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Sep 2025 22:03:40 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :
> 
> 
>>> Heh heh heh... every single Android 10 and newer is patched every month.
>> 
>> Like I said a patch of random services is not proper or full support. 
> 
> Those are not "random services"; they're core critical Android packages.

It isn't the whole OS, is it? Fact is google had to step up for basic
support of random services because manufacturers abandoned their devices so
rapidly. It needed to prop up the ecosystem. 

>>> How many iPhones of that era are patched every month, Chris.
>>> 
>>> C'mon. Answer that question.
>>> HINT: None.
>> 
>> Every iphone since 2018 is still fully supported. How many Samsungs and
>> Googles have been deprecated since 2018?
> 
> Every Android 10 and above that is on the Internet is updated monthly.
> Forever.

[Factcheck: this is a lie]

https://endoflife.date/samsung-mobile
https://endoflife.date/pixel

Only Pixels 6 and newer are supported. Anything older is unsupported after
only three years. 

>> C'mon answer the question. 
>> HINT: I know you won't out of embarrassment. 
> 
> I just did.

False. 

> 
>>>> If "forever" were true, why do Samsung and Google claim their phones are
>>>> only supported for seven years?
>>> 
>>> You already said 
>> 
>> Just answer the question. Which you won't. 
> 
> Every statement from you shows your lack of understanding of how Android
> updates, since it's updated by Google over the Internet very single month.

You're weaseling. Explain how seven years = forever. 

> Why do you think iOS has 1-1/2 times the number of known exploits, Chris?
>  <https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog>

That link doesn't support your assertion. 

>> 
>>> Nobody else has support that bad.
>>> Just Apple.
>> 
>> Calling you clueless is being kind. 
> 
> Heh heh heh... and yet I know how both iOS and Android update.
> You do not.

Then explain how seven years = forever. 

>>> Apple promises only five years of full support in writing, Chris.
>> 
>> So what? That's just a minimum. Real world evidence is proof of much better
>> support. 
> 
> Apple's support is the worst in the industry, Chris.
> Name another OEM that only fully supports a single release stream.

False premise. 

>> Apple has already supported several models - the 6s, 6s Plus, XR, XS, XS
>> Max and probably others -  for seven years. The rest in the last decade
>> have been five or six years. No other support is better. 
> 
> You don't seem to know the difference between full & random support.

Lol. You're simply repeating my argument. 

>>> Google and Samsung promise seven.
>> 
>> Only for premium models. And they have no evidence of supporting anything
>> longer than three or four years. 
> 
> Android is getting better every year

It needed to catch-up with Apple. Also the EU forced their hand. It is
still, however, a lottery depending which android phone you get. 

> 
>> A promise is worthless until it is backed up. We won't know what seven
>> years of support looks like with Samsung for another FIVE YEARS. Yet,
>> today, we know exactly what seven years of support from Apple looks like:
>> reliably boring.
> 
> Truth be told

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The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-13 22:30 +0000
  Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-08-14 06:53 +0200
  Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 05:55 +0000
    Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-14 16:50 +0000
      Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 10:38 -0700
      Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 18:03 +0000
        Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-19 11:58 +0000
          Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-19 14:26 +0000
            Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-20 07:10 +0000
              Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-20 16:57 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-20 21:17 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-21 00:11 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-21 07:14 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-21 21:30 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-22 02:03 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-23 11:56 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-24 01:22 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-23 16:22 -0700
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-24 01:31 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-24 17:14 -0400
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-25 01:26 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-25 14:41 -0400
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-08-26 10:00 +1200
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-26 03:06 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 16:26 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-27 00:48 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-27 16:43 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-28 03:13 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-28 19:23 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-28 23:48 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-29 15:28 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-30 22:22 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-31 16:59 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-31 18:32 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-09-02 12:32 -0400
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-09-02 22:03 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-09-02 22:50 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-09-03 15:28 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-09-03 17:11 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-09-08 18:55 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-09-09 00:13 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-09-10 15:58 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-27 15:38 -0400
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-27 21:16 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-28 03:24 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-25 19:17 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-26 01:57 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-26 09:19 -0400
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-26 09:23 -0400
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-08-27 08:40 +1200
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-28 03:42 +0000
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-28 16:17 -0400
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-28 16:19 -0400
                Re: The 11 iOS features that Arlen is ignorant of -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-29 10:46 -0400

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