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Re: Is there a de-mozzilla'd FIrefox (similar to degoogled chromium)?

From Marion <marion@facts.com>
Newsgroups alt.comp.software.firefox, alt.privacy, alt.msdos.batch
Subject Re: Is there a de-mozzilla'd FIrefox (similar to degoogled chromium)?
Date 2025-08-22 09:46 +0000
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 04:11:10 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :


>   Chromium ==> respects Windows proxy settings (which Psiphon sets for you)
>   Mozilla ==> ignores Windows proxy settings (but has their own settings)

UPDATE: 

Aurgh. There are layers to this Windows socks5 stuff such that some apps
use one layer while other apps use a different layer. Who knew? Not me!

Everything in Windows having to do with privacy seems to have more layers.

I started checking whether non-browser apps used Windows proxy settings,
where it turns out pgms like Telegram & CoPilot are different than
browsers are (which themselves are different in how each handle proxy).

Running the previously posted "proxy.bat" showed that Psiphon modified the 
WinINET (user apps, browsers) proxy (127.0.0.1:17561 / socks at 
127.0.0.1:1080) but not the WinHTTP (system/background services) proxy.

Sigh. Half a solution is not a full solution.
In fact, even with Psiphon, WinHTTP was was set to direct access (no
proxy).

The fix is to always copy the WinINET proxy config into WinHTTP.
 Win+R > cmd {ctrl+shift+enter}
 C:\> netsh winhttp import proxy source=ie
      Now system services (which often ignore WinINET) will use 
      Psiphon's proxy as well. It also set a bypass list so that
      local/private subnets avoid the proxy. 

This is needed so that any Windows component that uses WinHTTP (like parts 
of Copilot, Windows Update, some Microsoft Store traffic) will respect the 
Psiphon proxy, matching the existing Psiphon browser/app proxy settings.

To test:
a. Temporarily clear WinHTTP proxy:
   C:\> netsh winhttp reset proxy

b. Run Win+R > proxy
   The proxy.bat script should detect 'No WinHTTP proxy set'
   and it should then import settings from WinINET automatically.
c. Set a custom WinHTTP proxy:
   C:\> netsh winhttp set proxy proxy-server="http=1.2.3.4:8080"

d. Run Win+R > proxy
   The proxy.bat script should detect an existing WinHTTP proxy 
   and therefore it should NOT overwrite it.

Below is the improved proxy.bat script to accomplish the sync above.

 ===< cut here for improved proxy.bat which handles more programs >===
 @echo off
 REM proxy.bat 20250820 v1.2
 REM Use model: "Win+R > proxy" (diagnostic + proxy import if WinHTTP is
unset)
 REM Unified Windows proxy diagnostic tool with WinHTTP sync safeguard
 REM "Win+R > proxy /sync imports WinINET proxy directly into WinHTTP
 REM Reports: WinINET manual proxy, WinHTTP proxy, PAC/AutoDetect
 REM HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\proxy.exe
 REM Default=C:\sys\batch\proxy.bat 
 REM That App Paths key creates the convenient "Win+R > proxy" command
 REM 
 setlocal
 
 :: --- Quick /sync mode ---
 if /i "%~1"=="/sync" (
     echo Syncing WinINET proxy into WinHTTP...
     netsh winhttp import proxy source=ie
     echo Done.
     pause
     exit /b
 )
 
 set KEY="HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings"
 
 echo ==============================================
 echo   WINDOWS PROXY CONFIGURATION SET/CHECK/FIX
 echo ==============================================
 
 REM --- WinINET (manual proxy) ---
 echo.
 echo [1] WinINET / Internet Settings
 for /f "tokens=2,* skip=2" %%A in ('reg query %KEY% /v ProxyEnable
2^>nul') do set ProxyEnable=%%B
 for /f "tokens=2,* skip=2" %%A in ('reg query %KEY% /v ProxyServer
2^>nul') do set ProxyServer=%%B
 if "%ProxyEnable%"=="0x1" (
     echo Proxy is ENABLED
     echo Proxy server: %ProxyServer%
 ) else (
     echo Proxy is DISABLED
 )
 
 REM --- WinHTTP proxy ---
 echo.
 echo [2] WinHTTP proxy (system/background services)
 
 REM Get current WinHTTP proxy setting
 for /f "tokens=1,* delims=:" %%A in ('netsh winhttp show proxy ^| findstr
/R /C:"Proxy Server(s)"') do set curWinHTTP=%%B
 
 REM Trim leading/trailing spaces
 set curWinHTTP=%curWinHTTP:~1%
 
 if "%curWinHTTP%"=="" (
     echo No WinHTTP proxy set - importing from WinINET...
     netsh winhttp import proxy source=ie >nul 2>&1
 ) else (
     echo WinHTTP proxy already set - leaving as is.
 )
 
 REM Show current WinHTTP proxy after check/import
 netsh winhttp show proxy
 
 REM --- PAC (Proxy Auto-Config) & AutoDetect ---
 echo.
 echo [3] PAC / AutoDetect
 for /f "tokens=2,* skip=2" %%A in ('reg query %KEY% /v AutoConfigURL
2^>nul') do set PACurl=%%B
 for /f "tokens=2,* skip=2" %%A in ('reg query %KEY% /v AutoDetect 2^>nul')
do set AutoDetect=%%B
 
 if defined PACurl (
     echo PAC script set: %PACurl%
 ) else (
     echo No PAC script URL found.
 )
 
 if "%AutoDetect%"=="0x1" (
     echo Auto-detect is ENABLED
 ) else (
     echo Auto-detect is DISABLED
 )
 
 echo.
 echo ==============================================
 echo Windows proxy set/check/fix complete.
 echo ==============================================
 
 endlocal
 pause
 
 ===< cut here for improved proxy.bat which handles more programs >===

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