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Re: Is there a de-mozzilla'd FIrefox (similar to degoogled chromium)?

From Marion <marion@facts.com>
Newsgroups alt.comp.software.firefox, alt.privacy
Subject Re: Is there a de-mozzilla'd FIrefox (similar to degoogled chromium)?
Date 2025-08-18 00:22 +0000
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On Tue, 12 Aug 2025 20:13:42 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :


> Meanwhile, I've been testing the VPN extensions which passed the initial
> tests, where my fungible test-rating system puts them in this order:
>  browsec
>  1clickvpn
>  1vpn
>  vpnly
>  xvpn
>  securefreeedgevpn
>  setupvpn
> 
> Bearing in mind these all failed the most basic initial VPN tests.
>  hotspotshieldvpn
>  itopvpn
>  protonvpn
>  urbanvpn
>  hidemevpn
>  hiddenbatvpn
>  tunnelbearvpn
>  windscribevpn

UPDATE:

I ditched the VPN extensions in order to test a SOCKS5 proxy tunnel.
  browsec  ==> the best, but it slows down drastically in a week
  1clickvpn ==> seems to slow down drastically in just days
  1vpn ==> seems to slow down drastically in just days
  vpnly ==> seems to slow down drastically in just days
  xvpn ==> seems to slow down drastically in just days
  securefreeedgevpn ==> seems to slow down drastically in just days
  setupvpn ==> seems to slow down drastically in just days
  hoxx ==> seems to slow down drastically in just days

  hotspotshieldvpn ==> fails the initial VPN extension test conditions
  itopvpn ==> fails the initial VPN extension test conditions
  protonvpn ==> fails the initial VPN extension test conditions
  urbanvpn ==> fails the initial VPN extension test conditions
  hidemevpn ==> fails the initial VPN extension test conditions
  hiddenbatvpn ==> fails the initial VPN extension test conditions
  tunnelbearvpn ==> fails the initial VPN extension test conditions
  windscribevpnv ==> fails the initial VPN extension test conditions

Bad news. Very bad news. All the VPN extensions slow down tremendously, it
seems, within a few days of using them. So I tried something else that is
free, login free and hopefully, much faster than VPN extensions are.
  a. Psiphon (Socks5 proxy)
  b. Freecap (Socks5 redirector)
  c. Any browser (with a score of privacy extensions)

A. Psiphon is not a traditional VPN but rather a circumvention tool that
uses a mix of VPN, SSH, and HTTP proxy technologies to bypass censorship. 

B. Freecap (or Proxifier) is used to route app traffic (such as that of a
browser) through a SOCKS5 proxy to achieve selective traffic tunneling.

C. Any Browser + Privacy Extensions for fingerprinting and tracking
protection.

I also uninstalled NoScript as it was a royal pita to manage.
I also removed the non-privacy extension disablehtml5autoplay.

Here's what I'm currently testing (where IP obfuscation & speed are key).
 Psiphon + Freecap + Any privacy browser + privacy extensions

https://psiphon.ca/
 Name: psiphon3.exe
 Size: 10402576 bytes (10158 KiB)
 SHA256: DB1BAF76F0333F4743919A86F35037559F9E7DA7DF14982DFC16FB8DC0BE6BE2

https://freecap.apponic.com/download/
 Name: freecap_setup_eng.exe
 Size: 1644848 bytes (1606 KiB)
 SHA256: C3D4929AB5A5867A6BE9914FF94DEFEFED6762748EDB1E351C86EBC5A02D46EC

Here are the current set of privacy extensions (many for fingerprinting):
  bhchdcejhohfmigjafbampogmaanbfkg : User-Agent Switcher and Manager
  cjpalhdlnbpafiamejdnhcphjbkeiagm : uBlock Origin 
  fhcgjolkccmbidfldomjliifgaodjagh : Cookie AutoDelete 
  fhkphphbadjkepgfljndicmgdlndmoke : Font Fingerprint Defender 
  fjkmabmdepjfammlpliljpnbhleegehm : WebRTC Control 
  gjldcdngmdknpinoemndlidpcabkggco : Extension Manager 
  hhnhplojcganfmfimkeboiipphklcbih : Location Guard (V3)
  hnkcfpcejkafcihlgbojoidoihckciin : Referer Control
  jaoafjdoijdconemdmodhbfpianehlon : Skip Redirect
  jjbikklopibeimjelkohlldbjcdnofei : StayInTab
  lckanjgmijmafbedllaakclkaicjfmnk : ClearURLs 
  ldpochfccmkkmhdbclfhpagapcfdljkj : Decentraleyes 
  njdfdhgcmkocbgbhcioffdbicglldapd : LocalCDN 
  njkmjblmcfiobddjgebnoeldkjcplfjb : Trace - Online Tracking Protection 
  nomnklagbgmgghhjidfhnoelnjfndfpd : Canvas Blocker - Fingerprint Protect
  pkehgijcmpdhfbdbbnkijodmdjhbjlgp : Privacy Badger 
  pmcpffnpjncfplinfnjebjoonbncnjfl : CthulhuJs (Anti-Fingerprint)

And this is what I'm currently testing in the DIY browser where SPEED
(and IP obfuscation) turn out to be the hardest things to get this way.

How to add Socks5 to your Windows 10 browser sessions:
1. Start Psiphon & make a note of the SocksV5 port in the log output
2. Start Freecap & add the Socks5 port for your browser into the settings
3. Add your web browser into the Freecap settings
4. In Freecap, add desired command-line performance flags for the
application:
    --disable-background-timer-throttling
    --disable-backgrounding-occluded-windows
    --disable-renderer-backgrounding

Voila!

This setup routes only selected web browser traffic via FreeCap through
Psiphon, offering selective IP obfuscation & hopefully maintaining speed.

If this works, we can ditch the problematic VPN extensions, all of which
seem to either fail the initial tests or severely slow down in just days.

I just started testing it, but I post this so that others who actually 
know what they're doing can add value to how they do Socks5 tunneling!

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Is there a de-mozzilla'd FIrefox (similar to degoogled chromium)? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-26 05:52 +0000
  Re: Is there a de-mozzilla'd FIrefox (similar to degoogled chromium)? Xavier M <xmendizabal@euskaltel.com> - 2025-07-26 08:29 +0200
    Re: Is there a de-mozzilla'd FIrefox (similar to degoogled chromium)? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-26 20:47 +0000
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                Re: Is there a de-mozzilla'd FIrefox (similar to degoogled chromium)? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-09 02:54 +0000
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                Re: Is there a de-mozzilla'd FIrefox (similar to degoogled chromium)? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-08 14:11 +0000
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